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Re: Off Season Thread

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:05 pm
by Shedman
Tampa Bay signs Wander Franco for 3 of his FA years for a 4.

Giants - Alvarez(2),Flores(1.5),Belt(3),Desclafini(3.5),Wood(3).................................................................13
Astros - Gurriel(4),Verlander(4)........................................................................................................8
Rockies -Cron(3)Senzatela(1),Chacin(1),Diaz(2).....................................................................................7
Marlins - Rojas(2),Head(2),Alcantara(2.5)..........................................................................................6.5
Giants - Alvarez(2),Flores(1.5),Belt(3)..............................................................................................6.5
Rays - Zunino(2.5),Franco(4)..........................................................................................................6.5
Cardinals - Wainwright(3),McFarland(2)...............................................................................................5
Rockies -Cron(3)Senzatela(1),Chacin(1................................................................................................5
Angels - Syndergaard(2.5),Loup(2.5)...................................................................................................5
Tigers - Barnhart(1),Rodriguez(3)......................................................................................................4
Indians - Ramirez(4)......................................................................................................................4
White Sox - Kimbrel(3)....................................................................................................................3
Diamondbacks - Kelly(3)..................................................................................................................3
Cubs - Wade Miley(3)......................................................................................................................3
Blue Jays - Berrios(3)......................................................................................................................3
Angels - Syndergaard(2.5)...............................................................................................................2.5
Rays - Zunino(2.5).......................................................................................................................2.5
Nationals - Escobar(2).....................................................................................................................2
Red Sox- Vazquez(2)......................................................................................................................2
Yankees - Rodriguez(2)...................................................................................................................2
Angels - Syndergaard(2)..................................................................................................................2
Pirates - Quintana(1.5).................................................................................................................1.5
Dodgers - Heaney(1).......................................................................................................................1
Braves - Pina(1)............................................................................................................................1
Brewers - Severino(1).....................................................................................................................1

I guess we won't be following the Rays model now.

Re: Off Season Thread

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:48 pm
by Wildwood Dave
This is very unusual, Shedman. We really don't have much
on which to evaluate him. For that reason, I will give him
a 3.5

Re: Off Season Thread

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:01 am
by Shedman
The White Sox get Kendall Graveman for a 2.

Giants - Alvarez(2),Flores(1.5),Belt(3),Desclafini(3.5),Wood(3).................................................................13
Astros - Gurriel(4),Verlander(4)........................................................................................................8
Rockies -Cron(3)Senzatela(1),Chacin(1),Diaz(2).....................................................................................7
Marlins - Rojas(2),Head(2),Alcantara(2.5)..........................................................................................6.5
Giants - Alvarez(2),Flores(1.5),Belt(3)..............................................................................................6.5
Rays - Zunino(2.5),Franco(4)..........................................................................................................6.5
Cardinals - Wainwright(3),McFarland(2)...............................................................................................5
Rockies -Cron(3)Senzatela(1),Chacin(1................................................................................................5
Angels - Syndergaard(2.5),Loup(2.5)...................................................................................................5
White Sox - Kimbrel(3),Graveman(2)..................................................................................................5
Tigers - Barnhart(1),Rodriguez(3)......................................................................................................4
Indians - Ramirez(4)......................................................................................................................4
Diamondbacks - Kelly(3)..................................................................................................................3
Cubs - Wade Miley(3)......................................................................................................................3
Blue Jays - Berrios(3)......................................................................................................................3
Angels - Syndergaard(2.5)...............................................................................................................2.5
Rays - Zunino(2.5).......................................................................................................................2.5
Nationals - Escobar(2).....................................................................................................................2
Red Sox- Vazquez(2)......................................................................................................................2
Yankees - Rodriguez(2)...................................................................................................................2
Angels - Syndergaard(2)..................................................................................................................2
Pirates - Quintana(1.5).................................................................................................................1.5
Dodgers - Heaney(1).......................................................................................................................1
Braves - Pina(1)............................................................................................................................1
Brewers - Severino(1).....................................................................................................................1

Cherington keeps spinning his wheels and going nowhere.

Re: Off Season Thread

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:22 pm
by Wildwood Dave
Graveman- 2

Re: Off Season Thread

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:04 pm
by Shedman
The Cardinals sign Steven Matz for a 3.5.

Giants - Alvarez(2),Flores(1.5),Belt(3),Desclafini(3.5),Wood(3).................................................................13
Cardinals - Wainwright(3),McFarland(2),Matz(3.5)................................................................................8.5
Astros - Gurriel(4),Verlander(4)........................................................................................................8
Rockies -Cron(3)Senzatela(1),Chacin(1),Diaz(2).....................................................................................7
Marlins - Rojas(2),Head(2),Alcantara(2.5)..........................................................................................6.5
Giants - Alvarez(2),Flores(1.5),Belt(3)..............................................................................................6.5
Rays - Zunino(2.5),Franco(4)..........................................................................................................6.5
Rockies -Cron(3)Senzatela(1),Chacin(1................................................................................................5
Angels - Syndergaard(2.5),Loup(2.5)...................................................................................................5
White Sox - Kimbrel(3),Graveman(2)..................................................................................................5
Tigers - Barnhart(1),Rodriguez(3)......................................................................................................4
Indians - Ramirez(4)......................................................................................................................4
Diamondbacks - Kelly(3)..................................................................................................................3
Cubs - Wade Miley(3)......................................................................................................................3
Blue Jays - Berrios(3)......................................................................................................................3
Angels - Syndergaard(2.5)...............................................................................................................2.5
Rays - Zunino(2.5).......................................................................................................................2.5
Nationals - Escobar(2).....................................................................................................................2
Red Sox- Vazquez(2)......................................................................................................................2
Yankees - Rodriguez(2)...................................................................................................................2
Angels - Syndergaard(2)..................................................................................................................2
Pirates - Quintana(1.5).................................................................................................................1.5
Dodgers - Heaney(1).......................................................................................................................1
Braves - Pina(1)............................................................................................................................1
Brewers - Severino(1).....................................................................................................................1

I think Cherington's method for building a team is like his method for climbing a tree. Stand on an acorn and wait until it grows.

Re: Off Season Thread

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:49 pm
by Wildwood Dave
Martz - 3.5 - good pickup for the Card
As of today, the Reds are the only team in the NL Central, not to make any noise

Re: Off Season Thread

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:43 pm
by Shedman
The Mets sign Nick Plummer for a 1.

Giants - Alvarez(2),Flores(1.5),Belt(3),Desclafini(3.5),Wood(3).................................................................13
Cardinals - Wainwright(3),McFarland(2),Matz(3.5)................................................................................8.5
Astros - Gurriel(4),Verlander(4)........................................................................................................8
Rockies -Cron(3)Senzatela(1),Chacin(1),Diaz(2).....................................................................................7
Marlins - Rojas(2),Head(2),Alcantara(2.5)..........................................................................................6.5
Giants - Alvarez(2),Flores(1.5),Belt(3)..............................................................................................6.5
Rays - Zunino(2.5),Franco(4)..........................................................................................................6.5
Rockies -Cron(3)Senzatela(1),Chacin(1................................................................................................5
Angels - Syndergaard(2.5),Loup(2.5)...................................................................................................5
White Sox - Kimbrel(3),Graveman(2)..................................................................................................5
Tigers - Barnhart(1),Rodriguez(3)......................................................................................................4
Indians - Ramirez(4)......................................................................................................................4
Diamondbacks - Kelly(3)..................................................................................................................3
Cubs - Wade Miley(3)......................................................................................................................3
Blue Jays - Berrios(3)......................................................................................................................3
Angels - Syndergaard(2.5)...............................................................................................................2.5
Rays - Zunino(2.5).......................................................................................................................2.5
Nationals - Escobar(2).....................................................................................................................2
Red Sox- Vazquez(2)......................................................................................................................2
Yankees - Rodriguez(2)...................................................................................................................2
Angels - Syndergaard(2)..................................................................................................................2
Pirates - Quintana(1.5).................................................................................................................1.5
Dodgers - Heaney(1).......................................................................................................................1
Braves - Pina(1)............................................................................................................................1
Brewers - Severino(1).....................................................................................................................1
Mets - Plummer(1).........................................................................................................................1

Is our GM a turkey?

Re: Off Season Thread

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:07 am
by Shedman
Our Bucs sign Tsutsugo for a 3.

Giants - Alvarez(2),Flores(1.5),Belt(3),Desclafini(3.5),Wood(3).................................................................13
Cardinals - Wainwright(3),McFarland(2),Matz(3.5)................................................................................8.5
Astros - Gurriel(4),Verlander(4)........................................................................................................8
Rockies -Cron(3)Senzatela(1),Chacin(1),Diaz(2).....................................................................................7
Marlins - Rojas(2),Head(2),Alcantara(2.5)..........................................................................................6.5
Giants - Alvarez(2),Flores(1.5),Belt(3)..............................................................................................6.5
Rays - Zunino(2.5),Franco(4)..........................................................................................................6.5
Rockies -Cron(3)Senzatela(1),Chacin(1................................................................................................5
Angels - Syndergaard(2.5),Loup(2.5)...................................................................................................5
White Sox - Kimbrel(3),Graveman(2)..................................................................................................5
Pirates - Quintana(1.5),Tsutsugo(3).................................................................................................4.5
Tigers - Barnhart(1),Rodriguez(3)......................................................................................................4
Indians - Ramirez(4)......................................................................................................................4
Diamondbacks - Kelly(3)..................................................................................................................3
Cubs - Wade Miley(3)......................................................................................................................3
Blue Jays - Berrios(3)......................................................................................................................3
Angels - Syndergaard(2.5)...............................................................................................................2.5
Rays - Zunino(2.5).......................................................................................................................2.5
Nationals - Escobar(2).....................................................................................................................2
Red Sox- Vazquez(2)......................................................................................................................2
Yankees - Rodriguez(2)...................................................................................................................2
Angels - Syndergaard(2)..................................................................................................................2
Dodgers - Heaney(1).......................................................................................................................1
Braves - Pina(1)............................................................................................................................1
Brewers - Severino(1).....................................................................................................................1
Mets - Plummer(1).........................................................................................................................1

To Ben Cherington - YOU DA MAN. Attaboy Ben, keep up the good work!

Re: Off Season Thread

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:13 pm
by Wildwood Dave
Tsutsugo - Your three is a little high after a very short stint.
However I will stick with you on this one 3

Re: Off Season Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:39 am
by Shedman
The Red Sox get Michael Wacha for a 2 and the Mets get Eduardo Escobar for a 3.

Giants - Alvarez(2),Flores(1.5),Belt(3),Desclafini(3.5),Wood(3).................................................................13
Cardinals - Wainwright(3),McFarland(2),Matz(3.5)................................................................................8.5
Astros - Gurriel(4),Verlander(4)........................................................................................................8
Rockies -Cron(3)Senzatela(1),Chacin(1),Diaz(2).....................................................................................7
Marlins - Rojas(2),Head(2),Alcantara(2.5)..........................................................................................6.5
Giants - Alvarez(2),Flores(1.5),Belt(3)..............................................................................................6.5
Rays - Zunino(2.5),Franco(4)..........................................................................................................6.5
Rockies -Cron(3)Senzatela(1),Chacin(1................................................................................................5
Angels - Syndergaard(2.5),Loup(2.5)...................................................................................................5
White Sox - Kimbrel(3),Graveman(2)..................................................................................................5
Pirates - Quintana(1.5),Tsutsugo(3).................................................................................................4.5
Tigers - Barnhart(1),Rodriguez(3)......................................................................................................4
Indians - Ramirez(4)......................................................................................................................4
Red Sox- Vazquez(2),Wacha(2).........................................................................................................4
Mets - Plummer(1),Escobar(3)..........................................................................................................4
Diamondbacks - Kelly(3)..................................................................................................................3
Cubs - Wade Miley(3)......................................................................................................................3
Blue Jays - Berrios(3)......................................................................................................................3
Angels - Syndergaard(2.5)...............................................................................................................2.5
Rays - Zunino(2.5).......................................................................................................................2.5
Nationals - Escobar(2).....................................................................................................................2
Yankees - Rodriguez(2)...................................................................................................................2
Angels - Syndergaard(2)..................................................................................................................2
Dodgers - Heaney(1).......................................................................................................................1
Braves - Pina(1)............................................................................................................................1
Brewers - Severino(1).....................................................................................................................1

Come on Ben, Kyle Seager would look great in a PIrate uniform.

Re: Off Season Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:20 am
by Shedman
The Diamondbacks get Jordan Luplow for a .5

Giants - Alvarez(2),Flores(1.5),Belt(3),Desclafini(3.5),Wood(3).................................................................13
Cardinals - Wainwright(3),McFarland(2),Matz(3.5)................................................................................8.5
Astros - Gurriel(4),Verlander(4)........................................................................................................8
Rockies -Cron(3)Senzatela(1),Chacin(1),Diaz(2).....................................................................................7
Marlins - Rojas(2),Head(2),Alcantara(2.5)..........................................................................................6.5
Giants - Alvarez(2),Flores(1.5),Belt(3)..............................................................................................6.5
Rays - Zunino(2.5),Franco(4)..........................................................................................................6.5
Rockies -Cron(3)Senzatela(1),Chacin(1................................................................................................5
Angels - Syndergaard(2.5),Loup(2.5)...................................................................................................5
White Sox - Kimbrel(3),Graveman(2)..................................................................................................5
Pirates - Quintana(1.5),Tsutsugo(3).................................................................................................4.5
Tigers - Barnhart(1),Rodriguez(3)......................................................................................................4
Indians - Ramirez(4)......................................................................................................................4
Red Sox- Vazquez(2),Wacha(2).........................................................................................................4
Mets - Plummer(1),Escobar(3)..........................................................................................................4
Diamondbacks - Kelly(3),Luplow(.5).................................................................................................3.5
Cubs - Wade Miley(3)......................................................................................................................3
Blue Jays - Berrios(3)......................................................................................................................3
Angels - Syndergaard(2.5)...............................................................................................................2.5
Rays - Zunino(2.5).......................................................................................................................2.5
Nationals - Escobar(2).....................................................................................................................2
Yankees - Rodriguez(2)...................................................................................................................2
Angels - Syndergaard(2)..................................................................................................................2
Dodgers - Heaney(1).......................................................................................................................1
Braves - Pina(1)............................................................................................................................1
Brewers - Severino(1).....................................................................................................................1

Re: Off Season Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:14 am
by Shedman
The Mets sign Mark Canha for a 2.

Cardinals - Wainwright(3),McFarland(2),Matz(3.5)................................................................................8.5
Astros - Gurriel(4),Verlander(4)........................................................................................................8
Rockies -Cron(3)Senzatela(1),Chacin(1),Diaz(2).....................................................................................7
Marlins - Rojas(2),Head(2),Alcantara(2.5)..........................................................................................6.5
Giants - Alvarez(2),Flores(1.5),Belt(3)..............................................................................................6.5
Rays - Zunino(2.5),Franco(4)..........................................................................................................6.5
Mets - Plummer(1),Escobar(3),Canha(2)..............................................................................................6
Rockies -Cron(3)Senzatela(1),Chacin(1................................................................................................5
Angels - Syndergaard(2.5),Loup(2.5)...................................................................................................5
White Sox - Kimbrel(3),Graveman(2)..................................................................................................5
Pirates - Quintana(1.5),Tsutsugo(3).................................................................................................4.5
Tigers - Barnhart(1),Rodriguez(3)......................................................................................................4
Indians - Ramirez(4)......................................................................................................................4
Red Sox- Vazquez(2),Wacha(2).........................................................................................................4
Diamondbacks - Kelly(3),Luplow(.5).................................................................................................3.5
Cubs - Wade Miley(3)......................................................................................................................3
Blue Jays - Berrios(3)......................................................................................................................3
Angels - Syndergaard(2.5)...............................................................................................................2.5
Rays - Zunino(2.5).......................................................................................................................2.5
Nationals - Escobar(2).....................................................................................................................2
Yankees - Rodriguez(2)...................................................................................................................2
Angels - Syndergaard(2)..................................................................................................................2
Dodgers - Heaney(1).......................................................................................................................1
Braves - Pina(1)............................................................................................................................1
Brewers - Severino(1).....................................................................................................................1

ssssswwwwwooooossssshhhhh. That's the sound of the Mets going by our Bucs.

Re: Off Season Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:51 pm
by Wildwood Dave
Wacha- 2.5
Canha- 2

Re: Off Season Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:56 pm
by Wildwood Dave
Luplow -1
Escobar -3
Even though you haven't graded him yet, the Mets have
signed Sterling Marte. I give him a 3

Re: Off Season Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:57 pm
by Wildwood Dave
The bucs are two signings ahead of last year at this time.