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 Post subject: Re: July 29, 2012 Pirates (58-42) at Astros (34-68)
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:41 am 
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I thought that teams commonly win two games in a row on wild pitches!

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 Post subject: Re: July 29, 2012 Pirates (58-42) at Astros (34-68)
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:45 am 
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No. 9 wrote:
I'm certainly not disappointed with an 8-5 record after the All Star break but there hasn't been a ton of great baseball played by the Bucs in those 13 games.

They were playing lights out heading into the all star break, and nobody should have expected them to continue at that level. However, as you have stated, there has been some bad baseball being played(hitting, pitching, defense) since the break. Fortunately they have played a lot of bad teams and have maintained a decent win %.

JMac needs to fix his mechanical issues.
Alvarez needs to go back in to attack mode. He is back to watching too many fastballs go by.
The team needs to get a bat to improve the Presley/McGhee/Barmes portion of the lineup. I personally hope it doesn't cost us Marte, but an upgrade seems like a must at this point if they want to stay in the hunt.


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 Post subject: Re: July 29, 2012 Pirates (58-42) at Astros (34-68)
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:08 pm 
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I probably would've settled for getting Kendrys Morales from the Angels for Correia to replace McGehee in the lineup. Not a huge improvement except he hits around .270 to McGehee's .230. At the very least he would've been a bench improvement.


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 Post subject: Re: July 29, 2012 Pirates (58-42) at Astros (34-68)
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:23 pm 
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Az Bucco fan wrote:
Al Oliver, Bob Robertson....Oliver moved to the OF to allow Starg to move to 1B. Bob Robertson was a great fielding 1B with power who succumbed to bad knees.

Oh, and don't knock the Rock.... 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)


That is not entirely true. Stargell did indeed play mostly 1b in 1972, but not LF was manned mostly that year by Vic Davalillo. Oliver played mostly 1b in 1969, split time in OF and 1b fairly evenly in '70, then took over CF exclusively in '71, playing NEXT to Stargell in LF.

Stargell was actually moved to 1b to make room in LF for Richie Zisk, but as I said, it was Davalillo that ended up getting most of the playing time there in '72. (hitting .318). Then in '73, (and again in '74) after Clemente's death, Zisk ended up playing mostly RF and Stargell moved back to LF (with Oliver being the primary starter in CF).

Finally, 'in '75 with Parker's arrival in RF, Zisk was moved to left and Stargell became exclusively a 1b at the age of 35! He never played the OF again. (who needed him back in the OF, when we had Teke available to backup in LF--LOL)

One final note, Stargell was a very good LF. He had some speed for a big man, and had a great arm. Many felt it rivaled Clemente's. He actually led the league in OF assists in '66, '67, '68, and '70 (of course they were testing him since they would never test Clemente). He also was second in OF assists in '65 and '71. He was not that great a 1b, leading league in errors in '72, and usually among the league leaders.

And this boys and girls is your Bucco history lesson for today! lol

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 Post subject: Re: July 29, 2012 Pirates (58-42) at Astros (34-68)
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:07 pm 
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RTJR wrote:
I probably would've settled for getting Kendrys Morales from the Angels for Correia to replace McGehee in the lineup. Not a huge improvement except he hits around .270 to McGehee's .230. At the very least he would've been a bench improvement.


Morales has 2 HR and 6 RBI in one inning tonight... I'll take that too 8-)


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