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 Post subject: Re: July 29, 2012 Pirates (58-42) at Astros (34-68)
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:25 pm 
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I agree. Whether JMac needs to skip a start or go to a 6 man rotation, something needs to be done to get JMac back on track because he has been brutal since the All Star Break.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:27 pm 
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Agreed. His lack of command is killing him.


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Why the $%#! is McDonald still in the game? He has been horrible today. Disgustingly bad.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:48 pm 
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This game is rapidly disintegrating.


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 Post subject: Re: July 29, 2012 Pirates (58-42) at Astros (34-68)
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Should have taken McDonald out.


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Huge opportunity here.

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 Post subject: Re: July 29, 2012 Pirates (58-42) at Astros (34-68)
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:15 pm 
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Aw, crap! What an excruciating series this has been. Hitters stranding runners all over the place. Starters not sharp. Hanrahan likewise. Crappy defense, especially by the outfielders.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:30 pm 
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Bob in Boston wrote:
Aw, crap! What an excruciating series this has been. Hitters stranding runners all over the place. Starters not sharp. Hanrahan likewise. Crappy defense, especially by the outfielders.


....and with all THAT, we are still going to take 3 out of 4, at WORST! But I still haven't given up home for this game yet. That is one thing that this team has taught me! ALWAYS HAVE FAITH!

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 Post subject: Re: July 29, 2012 Pirates (58-42) at Astros (34-68)
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:36 pm 
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Countdown is on...gotta get a bat. You know our 7-8-9 hitters are bad, so you can't keep running Presley and McGhee out there as well. And thats to say nothing of Pedro's streakiness and Marte's growing pains.


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And of course the Reds, who may never lose again, are up 6-2.


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 Post subject: Re: July 29, 2012 Pirates (58-42) at Astros (34-68)
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Our bats are dormant. Too many streaky hitters. Presley is terrible. McGehee is terrible.


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 Post subject: Re: July 29, 2012 Pirates (58-42) at Astros (34-68)
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One of those days. Again, I will take a game like this after winning 4 in a row. The Reds are going to lose sometime. Take your lumps. Leave Correia eat the rest of the innings to save the pen, and start over tomorrow!

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The Pirates NEED A BAT!

And the starting pitchers are not going to hold up. I just don't think they're that good for the long haul.

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Mister Pittsburgh wrote:
Our bats are dormant. Too many streaky hitters. Presley is terrible. McGehee is terrible.



I find it amazing that with the history of the Pirates they have had very few great 1st basemen. I even went back to look thinking I had forgot someone. And there were a few names I'd forgotten but still very few All Star types.


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MoTownWV wrote:
Mister Pittsburgh wrote:
Our bats are dormant. Too many streaky hitters. Presley is terrible. McGehee is terrible.



I find it amazing that with the history of the Pirates they have had very few great 1st basemen. I even went back to look thinking I had forgot someone. And there were a few names I'd forgotten but still very few All Star types.


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 Post subject: Re: July 29, 2012 Pirates (58-42) at Astros (34-68)
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One of those days. Again, I will take a game like this after winning 4 in a row. The Reds are going to lose sometime. Take your lumps. Leave Correia eat the rest of the innings to save the pen, and start over tomorrow!

Yes, it was one of those days. Had it come against, say, St. Louis or the Mets or Phillies, it could be laughed off. But against what now is basically a AAA team, mired in a 12-game losing streak, and you have your supposed best pitcher starting, this was inexcusably bad. Don't know about you, Animal, but aside from the home runs the Pirates hit in this series, I don't find much else to take away from it that's positive.

Charlie over at Bucs Dugout puts it about as well as anyone could, I think:

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Just about any time you take three of four in a series, it's a good thing, but this four-game stretch was alarming. The Pirates won three games not really because they played well, but because the Astros are a disaster. Then their ace pitched the fourth game and walked seven batters, meaning that he's now walked 19 batters in his last four starts.


I'll be back up for tomorrow's game, but right now I'm not happy. This ought to have been a sweep. And I don't say that just because the Bucs are in a playoff hunt.

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Less than 72 hours to acquire a bat. We need one, badly.


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 Post subject: Re: July 29, 2012 Pirates (58-42) at Astros (34-68)
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:26 pm 
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McDonald needs to pull his head out of his ass and find that chip he misplaced & put it right back on his shoulder. Enough with the half season performers around here!


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 Post subject: Re: July 29, 2012 Pirates (58-42) at Astros (34-68)
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I don't think anyone seems to be sounding the alarm but it's how the Pirates won these three games against Houston and how the lost today's game....not very convincingly with the wins and an obviously bad loss with JMac continuing not to find his form...against a poor team like Houston.

I'm not sure about the path going forward. It doesn't give me a confident feeling at all.

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 Post subject: Re: July 29, 2012 Pirates (58-42) at Astros (34-68)
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:18 pm 
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MoTownWV wrote:
I find it amazing that with the history of the Pirates they have had very few great 1st basemen. I even went back to look thinking I had forgot someone. And there were a few names I'd forgotten but still very few All Star types.

Umm, Willie Stargell.

Well, if today wasn't further evidence of us needing another bat, well then, Huntington needs to just come flat out and admit he's not interested in taking advantage of this year. With McCutchen sitting out today (why?) we fielded a team where 5 of the 8 position players were hitting .235 or less. The MLB average this season is .254. And it's not like we're any good at small ball either. We are 29th in walks, we are 26th in stolen bases and last in stealing percentage. About all we do well, other than Cutch, is hit the timely HR. And yes, we are doing that very well. But it is hard to live that close to the knife's edge. We need another bat, and one better than Marte is going to be able to offer. My fear for this season is that we are wasting a career year from McCutchen, as well as our bullpen. We're good enough to make a concerted charge to the playoffs. At the start of the year, of course I would have been giddy with delight at the simple prospect of getting 19 straight losing seasons off our backs, but that was before McCutchen burst out of the gates, the bullpen has been one of the best of all time (!) and we've suddenly developed some power. There are still two days left...


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