Proud fans of a 128-year old tradition

It is currently Sun Oct 26, 2014 6:31 am

All times are UTC - 4 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Animal's Goat and Stars for 04/10
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:00 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:01 pm
Posts: 5832
Location: Slickville, PA
Tough 2-1 loss...but some great pitching again. Let's get to it.

Star #3 Cruz...gave up a couple hits, but also got a couple strikeouts and kept the game tied, giving the Bucs a chance to win.

Star #2 Presley...continues to hit.. two more hits today. Scored the lone Pirate run.

Star #1. Correia...another great start by the Pirate pitcher. Correia went 6 innings...just one run, 4 hits, 2 BB. Pitched well enough to win.

LP: Grilli...got two nice outs, then gave up the losing HR, in his one inning of work. Gave him some consideration as my goat too, but decided againast it..

GOAT: Neil Walker. Struck out in 2nd with runner on 3rd and only one out. We needed contact there. Stranded Cutch at 3b in the 7th with what would have been the go ahead run.

Get 'em tomorrow Bucs!

SEASON TOTALS

Presley 5.5
Cruz 4.5
Karstens 3.0
Correia 3.0
ACutch 2.0
Hanrahan 2.0
Bedard 2.0
Hague 2.0
Barajas 1.0
McDonald 1.0
Barmes 0.5
Harrison 0.5
Watson0.5
Grilli 0.5
Alvarez 0.5
McGeehee 0.5
Meek 0.5
Grilli -1.0
Walker -1.0

_________________
"Live proud! Laugh Loud! Standout in a Crowd!"


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Animal's Goat and Stars for 04/10
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:09 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:00 am
Posts: 3138
Walker had a couple great defensive plays. He made a long running catch over the seats to grab a foul ball that Hague had lost in the sun, and also made a great diving stop to save a run in the same inning. Don't think he's at all deserving of a goat. My goat would be Grilli by default, but if you're going to give it to a hitter, I'd give it to someone who also didn't make great plays in the field.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Animal's Goat and Stars for 04/10
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:31 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:01 pm
Posts: 5832
Location: Slickville, PA
TheShark wrote:
Walker had a couple great defensive plays. He made a long running catch over the seats to grab a foul ball that Hague had lost in the sun, and also made a great diving stop to save a run in the same inning. Don't think he's at all deserving of a goat. My goat would be Grilli by default, but if you're going to give it to a hitter, I'd give it to someone who also didn't make great plays in the field.


Good argument. My daughter had a lacrosse game, so I did not get to listen to much of the game and did not hear any of those defensive plays.

Do others agree??

But the bottom line is, if Walker had come through in just ONE of those at bats, we would likely win.

_________________
"Live proud! Laugh Loud! Standout in a Crowd!"


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Animal's Goat and Stars for 04/10
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:41 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:04 am
Posts: 75
Location: Altoona, PA
TheShark wrote:
Walker had a couple great defensive plays. He made a long running catch over the seats to grab a foul ball that Hague had lost in the sun, and also made a great diving stop to save a run in the same inning. Don't think he's at all deserving of a goat. My goat would be Grilli by default, but if you're going to give it to a hitter, I'd give it to someone who also didn't make great plays in the field.


Definitley agree with this. Walker was great defensivly today, as we have come to expect really. Grilli should be the goat. As far as the stars its w/e really. Presley and Correia should both get stars, that 3rd spot can go to whoever lol. Cruz is fine.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Animal's Goat and Stars for 04/10
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:51 am 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:28 pm
Posts: 1361
I don't know, guys. This team HAS to score those kind of runs. If there has to be a goat (I'm not real sure there was one), I think it's Walker. Grilli put the pitch exactly where Barajas asked for it.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Animal's Goat and Stars for 04/10
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:02 am 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:01 pm
Posts: 5832
Location: Slickville, PA
bradf wrote:
I don't know, guys. This team HAS to score those kind of runs. If there has to be a goat (I'm not real sure there was one), I think it's Walker. Grilli put the pitch exactly where Barajas asked for it.


That is my thoughts. I am sticking to my original selections. Thanks for everyone's input.

It's a tough goat to take, but he has to come through in at least ONE of those situations at the plate, especially with runner at third and only one out.

_________________
"Live proud! Laugh Loud! Standout in a Crowd!"


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Animal's Goat and Stars for 04/10
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:39 am 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:27 pm
Posts: 412
Location: Morgantown, WV, via Charleston, WV
I also missed the game yesterday for a Lacrosse match (my son played in Wheeling, WV). Driving home, we listened to 93.7 radio station out of Pittsburgh, and the host (Andrew Fillipponi) said that Clint Hurdle was the goat for not changing pitchers. He pointed out many, many times how he thought Tony Watson should have replaced Grilli to face Andre Ethier, because Ethier can't hit lefties. As I said, I missed the game so I won't comment either way. Just wanted to throw that out there for discussion.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Animal's Goat and Stars for 04/10
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:40 am 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:46 am
Posts: 3655
Location: Economy, PA
bradf wrote:
I don't know, guys. This team HAS to score those kind of runs. If there has to be a goat (I'm not real sure there was one), I think it's Walker. Grilli put the pitch exactly where Barajas asked for it.


Well then blame both of them but that was an absolute mistake to get into Ethier's wheelhouse in that situation.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Animal's Goat and Stars for 04/10
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:42 am 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:46 am
Posts: 3655
Location: Economy, PA
Charleston_Charlies wrote:
I also missed the game yesterday for a Lacrosse match (my son played in Wheeling, WV). Driving home, we listened to 93.7 radio station out of Pittsburgh, and the host (Andrew Fillipponi) said that Clint Hurdle was the goat for not changing pitchers. He pointed out many, many times how he thought Tony Watson should have replaced Grilli to face Andre Ethier, because Ethier can't hit lefties. As I said, I missed the game so I won't comment either way. Just wanted to throw that out there for discussion.


That doesn't surprise me. When he has a point to make, he'll keep making it for hours and hours, literally.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Animal's Goat and Stars for 04/10
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:53 am 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:11 pm
Posts: 5823
Location: 120 miles west of Iowa City
Strip off the label "goat" and change it to "failed to deliver when presented with the opportunity" and the answer is easily Neil Walker. His role is to be a team leader and a run producer. His AB with McGahee on third base was simply atrocious. The pitch that he missed on strike three was not as fat as the pitch that Hague whiffed on but it was not in a great location (elevated) and was begging to be smoked. Walker missed it by a foot with an awful looking swing. He and Hague both missed eminently hittable pitches in a key situation. Because I have higher expectations for Walker, I'd give him the designation of player "who failed to deliver when presented with opportunity" or . . . . "goat."

It would certainly be nice if Walker or Tabata could string together some hits. Their bats are solely needed. Also, one has to think that the leash on Garrett Jones has to be getting shorter and shorter. If Walker and Tabata aren't exactly tearing it up, McGahee's bat has to find its way into the lineup.

_________________
Reflexively, obsessively and tastelessly submitted,
No. 9
Obsessive proponent of situational bunting and 2 strike hitting approaches, reflexively pro-catchers calling good games and tasteless proponent of the value of a RBI.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Animal's Goat and Stars for 04/10
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:04 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:46 pm
Posts: 5102
Location: Washington, DC
I agree with No. 9. Even though McGehee's triple yesterday was a gift (thanks, Matt Kemp!), he's been the only Pirate consistently squaring up the ball and hitting it hard. He needs to play.

If I'm Clint Hurdle, I start McGehee at first base today and Alvarez at third.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Animal's Goat and Stars for 04/10
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:05 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:04 am
Posts: 75
Location: Altoona, PA
J_C_Steel wrote:
I agree with No. 9. Even though McGehee's triple yesterday was a gift (thanks, Matt Kemp!), he's been the only Pirate consistently squaring up the ball and hitting it hard. He needs to play.

If I'm Clint Hurdle, I start McGehee at first base today and Alvarez at third.


I hope this is what we see.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Animal's Goat and Stars for 04/10
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:34 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 WWW  YIM  Profile

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:24 pm
Posts: 4238
Location: Zelienople, PA
Charleston_Charlies wrote:
Imany, many times how he thought Tony Watson should have replaced Grilli to face Andre Ethier, because Ethier can't hit lefties...


Yes, and Watson doesn't get them out, either.

I did not have a problem with the way Grilli was pitching. He had just smoked through the first 2 2/3 outs. He left one up a bit, but man was Grilli throwing yesterday.

ZM

_________________
Someone tell Votto... rbis are good


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Animal's Goat and Stars for 04/10
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:34 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:46 am
Posts: 3655
Location: Economy, PA
He was throwing well, both the fastball and the curveball. The home run ball wasn't up, it was down and in, and he had no business being anywhere near there. A walk would have been fine in that situation.


Top
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 4 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group  
Design By Poker Bandits