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 Post subject: May 3, 2011 Pirates (14-15) at Padres (11-18)
PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 6:10 pm 
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1. McCutchen CF
2. Paul LF
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4. Walker 2B
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6. Snyder C
7. Alvarez 3B
8. Cedeno SS
9. Karstens P


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1. Bartlett SS
2. Hudson 2B
3. Ludwick LF
4. Cantu 3B
5. Maybin CF
6. Hawpe 1B
7. Johnson C
8. Venable RF
9. Latos P

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 Post subject: Re: May 3, 2011 Pirates (14-15) at Padres (11-18)
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Pirates are going to get into Latos' head ... the mystery line-up. They should send up players wrapped in butcher paper.

"Is it the pitcher? Or maybe Walker? Who knows. Wow, don't know what to do ... "


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 Post subject: Re: May 3, 2011 Pirates (14-15) at Padres (11-18)
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Let's beat this guy! Go bucs!

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 Post subject: Re: May 3, 2011 Pirates (14-15) at Padres (11-18)
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bassoondirector wrote:
Let's beat this guy! Go bucs!


Fear not, Pirates fans, for I have Mr. Latos on a couple fantasy teams. This pretty much guarantees the Pirates will have scored 8 runs by the end of the 2nd inning.


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 Post subject: Re: May 3, 2011 Pirates (14-15) at Padres (11-18)
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I'd say Cedeno needs a little help with his bare hand plays.

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 Post subject: Re: May 3, 2011 Pirates (14-15) at Padres (11-18)
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Will someone please tell me why Doumit ducked out of the way? Why? Why? Why? Can't he just stand there?

Goat = Wood. Big time.

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 Post subject: Re: May 3, 2011 Pirates (14-15) at Padres (11-18)
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The second night in a row a base-running error has cost them in the 9th. Last night had Overbay not been thrown out on the hit and run attempt they would have had bases loaded with no outs.

Tonight, that steal attempt is bizarre. I know Bell is one of the best closers in the game and a sac fly would then score Wood, but take your chances on getting a hit with a quick guy on second. Especially with McCutchen in the hole with one out.

BTW - goat is Beimel. Walks in a run and gives up the game-winning HR. Admittedly, getting the double play was a nice way to get out of the jam, but giving up the homer kind of nullifies that.


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Dang, dang, dang, dang, dang!

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 Post subject: Re: May 3, 2011 Pirates (14-15) at Padres (11-18)
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BTW - goat is Beimel. Walks in a run and gives up the game-winning HR. Admittedly, getting the double play was a nice way to get out of the jam, but giving up the homer kind of nullifies that.


I have to agree, Beimel lost this game. He got lucky that Moskos came in for the one-pitch double play.

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 Post subject: Re: May 3, 2011 Pirates (14-15) at Padres (11-18)
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Goat is CROTTA!

The guy put the Pirates into the jam in the first place. The Pirates take the lead by 2 runs and then Crotta came in and he couldn't get anyone out. He couldn't hold the 5-3 lead. Miserable.

Beimel gave up the homerun but the damage was already done.

I don't know about anyone else here but I'm not a fan of Crotta. I think he belongs back playing AAA ball in Indy.

If Crotta stays, he shouldn't be put into a hold situation. That was such a critical part of the game last night.

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 Post subject: Re: May 3, 2011 Pirates (14-15) at Padres (11-18)
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Crotta could not throw strikes. He has pitched well most of the season, and I am guessing that Hurdle did not want to use Veras and Resop yet again.

Unfortunately, that decision meant that Hanrahan had no reason to pitch as well.

Too bad. I left off watching the game with the Pirates trailing 3-2. Come back just in time to see them rally and go up 5-3. Tough, tough loss.


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 Post subject: Re: May 3, 2011 Pirates (14-15) at Padres (11-18)
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The nature of the game changed when Wood inexplicably ran away from a hard hit bunt. It took away an out and really put the Bucs in a tough spot. Questionable base running in the 9th.

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 Post subject: Re: May 3, 2011 Pirates (14-15) at Padres (11-18)
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Crotta has allowed 7 of his 10 inherited runners to score, a whopping 70%. His H/9 is a bloated 13.5, tied for worst on the team with Evan Meek. He's a contact pitcher that manages to always find the wrong type of contact. I doubt he has that much time left in Pittsburgh.


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 Post subject: Re: May 3, 2011 Pirates (14-15) at Padres (11-18)
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bassoondirector wrote:
Goat is CROTTA!

The guy put the Pirates into the jam in the first place. The Pirates take the lead by 2 runs and then Crotta came in and he couldn't get anyone out. He couldn't hold the 5-3 lead. Miserable.

Beimel gave up the homerun but the damage was already done.

I don't know about anyone else here but I'm not a fan of Crotta. I think he belongs back playing AAA ball in Indy.

If Crotta stays, he shouldn't be put into a hold situation. That was such a critical part of the game last night.


Were you watching the same game as me?? Crotta made good pitches. Two infield hits. Then Beimel came in and did the rest of the damage. I can never forgive a guy walking in a run.

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 Post subject: Re: May 3, 2011 Pirates (14-15) at Padres (11-18)
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It was really a bizarre game. giving up HRs to probably the three least-likely suspects (one by a guy who was only in the game because of an injury to O-Dog and would have otherwise been tethered to the pine).

Giving them a huge inning where they couldn't even get the ball out of the infield (3 infield hits and a walk). That's just bad luck more than anything (though I'm not sure Crotta is the right guy in a high-leverage situation).

And I think there were some poor decisions by Wood.

1. Does anyone else think he could have gotten a 5-2-3 double play on Cantu. The guy runs like a sloth -- and that would have saved a run in that innning.

2. That ball in the dirt in the 9th went less than two feet away from the catcher. No way you run (though credit for an excellent throw to the Catcher).

Finally, why the hell did Doumit just stand there watching the ball going past the catcher on the 3rd strike. If he had hustled out of the box immediately, he would have easily reached first (Walker too almost blew it when he too jogged a bit on the 3rd strike). These guys need to play every play!


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 Post subject: Re: May 3, 2011 Pirates (14-15) at Padres (11-18)
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NYC-Buc wrote:
Finally, why the hell did Doumit just stand there watching the ball going past the catcher on the 3rd strike.


Because he's a vastly improved Ryan Doumit.


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 Post subject: Re: May 3, 2011 Pirates (14-15) at Padres (11-18)
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He should be relegated to mop up.


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 Post subject: Re: May 3, 2011 Pirates (14-15) at Padres (11-18)
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Animal wrote:
bassoondirector wrote:
Goat is CROTTA!

The guy put the Pirates into the jam in the first place. The Pirates take the lead by 2 runs and then Crotta came in and he couldn't get anyone out. He couldn't hold the 5-3 lead. Miserable.

Beimel gave up the homerun but the damage was already done.

I don't know about anyone else here but I'm not a fan of Crotta. I think he belongs back playing AAA ball in Indy.

If Crotta stays, he shouldn't be put into a hold situation. That was such a critical part of the game last night.


Were you watching the same game as me?? Crotta made good pitches. Two infield hits. Then Beimel came in and did the rest of the damage. I can never forgive a guy walking in a run.


Were you watching the same game as me Animal? Crotta couldn't get anyone out. Hurdle came out after Crotta managed to allow two Padres to get on first and second base with no outs. He is a relief pitcher in a hold situation late in the game. His job was to shut down the Padres after we had just taken the lead 5-3 in the same inning. He failed and Hurdle took him out of the game. Crotta created the mess for Beimel. Yes, Beimel didn't do his job either but I give the blame to Crotta for creating the mess.

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 Post subject: Re: May 3, 2011 Pirates (14-15) at Padres (11-18)
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Going back to my previous question. I generally consider myself to be somewhat of a "rules guru" but I am admittedly unclear on what Doumit could have done with the ball in the dirt when Wood was racing for third base. As a catcher, I was always taught that I needed to clear the batter to get a good throwing angle. For instance, if there was a right handed hitter in the box and a runner was stealing third, I either had to step behind the hitter or step ahead of the hitter to make the throw. It was always my understanding that the hitter had every right to remain in the box and simply could not take any action to deliberately interfere with my throw to third base. The hitter was not obligated to get out of my way and could stand ground in the box.

Last night, Doumit purposefully ducked out of the way and gave Johnson a perfect throwing lane to third base. Does he have to get out of the way or could he have simply stood his ground in the batter's box and forced Johnson to throw around him? If he could have stood his ground, Wood is safe - BY A MILE; Johnson would not have had a chance.

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 Post subject: Re: May 3, 2011 Pirates (14-15) at Padres (11-18)
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It was bad luck for Crotta. Two of the weakest hit balls all night. That's baseball. 8-) 8-) 8-)


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