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 Post subject: Re: May 19, 2010 Brewers (15-24) vs Pirates (17-22)
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:49 pm 
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I know they're banking on the "power" to come through, but I really didn't like the decision to let Clement pinch-hit (against a lefty no less) with the based loaded in the 6th. I would have much rather took my chances on a Young single in that situation.


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 Post subject: Re: May 19, 2010 Brewers (15-24) vs Pirates (17-22)
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:00 pm 
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TheShark wrote:
I know they're banking on the "power" to come through, but I really didn't like the decision to let Clement pinch-hit (against a lefty no less) with the based loaded in the 6th. I would have much rather took my chances on a Young single in that situation.


I didn't like that decision either, didn't make any sense to me to bring him in against Wolf.


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 Post subject: Re: May 19, 2010 Brewers (15-24) vs Pirates (17-22)
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:13 pm 
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I sure do like to see an embarrassing slip up by Ryan Braun to cap off a nice win.

Dotel shuts the door, he has been a lot of fun to watch despite usually allowing one base runner. Nice all around team win.


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 Post subject: Re: May 19, 2010 Brewers (15-24) vs Pirates (17-22)
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:20 pm 
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So we're sitting at 18-22 despite giving up 100 more runs than we've scored. Man, the bullpen has been a nice surprise this year.


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 Post subject: Re: May 19, 2010 Brewers (15-24) vs Pirates (17-22)
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:28 pm 
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Another enjoyable win. Beat 'em Bucs!!


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 Post subject: Re: May 19, 2010 Brewers (15-24) vs Pirates (17-22)
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jaybee24 wrote:
So we're sitting at 18-22 despite giving up 100 more runs than we've scored. Man, the bullpen has been a nice surprise this year.


17-15 when Charlie Morton is not pitching.


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 Post subject: Re: May 19, 2010 Brewers (15-24) vs Pirates (17-22)
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:55 pm 
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TheShark wrote:
jaybee24 wrote:
So we're sitting at 18-22 despite giving up 100 more runs than we've scored. Man, the bullpen has been a nice surprise this year.


17-15 when Charlie Morton is not pitching.


Yeah we'd probably be over .500 if we had better pitchers than the likes of Morton and Burres (even despite our terrible run differential, most of which is because of the previous two Brewers' series).

Even though most fans are down on the team, I think the Bucs are doing quite well all things considered.

Can't wait for the key additions of Lincoln, Tabata, Alvarez and possibly Walker.

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 Post subject: Re: May 19, 2010 Brewers (15-24) vs Pirates (17-22)
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:57 pm 
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jaybee24 wrote:
So we're sitting at 18-22 despite giving up 100 more runs than we've scored.


Pythagoras predicts many blowout Pirate wins to restore normality...


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 Post subject: Re: May 19, 2010 Brewers (15-24) vs Pirates (17-22)
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BelfastBuc wrote:
jaybee24 wrote:
So we're sitting at 18-22 despite giving up 100 more runs than we've scored.


Pythagoras predicts many blowout Pirate wins to restore normality...


I like that thinking...


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 Post subject: Re: May 19, 2010 Brewers (15-24) vs Pirates (17-22)
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yes, very enjoyable. The Brewers announcers mentioned their 20-0 win over the Bucs at least 5 times before the end of the 2nd inning. And their 32-1 (or whatever it was) series scoring differential about as many times. It just goes to show..a loss..no matter how bad...is only 1 game. They're looking up at the Pirates in the standings now. LaRoche played Braun like a fiddle. Amazing that arrogant fool fell for that. Raise it.


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 Post subject: Re: May 19, 2010 Brewers (15-24) vs Pirates (17-22)
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 4:41 am 
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jaybee24 wrote:
TheShark wrote:
I know they're banking on the "power" to come through, but I really didn't like the decision to let Clement pinch-hit (against a lefty no less) with the based loaded in the 6th. I would have much rather took my chances on a Young single in that situation.


I didn't like that decision either, didn't make any sense to me to bring him in against Wolf.


I didn't like it, either. Then they showed that Clement was 3 for 4 with a HR vs. Wolf so it did make a little sense.


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 Post subject: Re: May 19, 2010 Brewers (15-24) vs Pirates (17-22)
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 9:23 am 
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jaybee24 wrote:
TheShark wrote:
I know they're banking on the "power" to come through, but I really didn't like the decision to let Clement pinch-hit (against a lefty no less) with the based loaded in the 6th. I would have much rather took my chances on a Young single in that situation.


I didn't like that decision either, didn't make any sense to me to bring him in against Wolf.


Clement was 3 for 4 with a single, double, and HR against Wolf...That was why he was brought in...

(oops...I didnt read all the posts before I posted...Sorry)

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 Post subject: Re: May 19, 2010 Brewers (15-24) vs Pirates (17-22)
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Good ol' JR...it's great that our manager is using a whopping sample size of 4 ABs on which to base potentially game turning decisions....


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 Post subject: Re: May 19, 2010 Brewers (15-24) vs Pirates (17-22)
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Think Andy redeemed himself when he caught Braun off second base? Andy knows how to be embarrassed by smart baseball so he did it to Braun.

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 Post subject: Re: May 19, 2010 Brewers (15-24) vs Pirates (17-22)
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:08 am 
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jaybee24 wrote:
Good ol' JR...it's great that our manager is using a whopping sample size of 4 ABs on which to base potentially game turning decisions....

So are you suggesting that he shouldn't have used that fact in his evaluation? If so, I respectfully disagree.


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 Post subject: Re: May 19, 2010 Brewers (15-24) vs Pirates (17-22)
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:11 am 
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burghermeister wrote:
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Good ol' JR...it's great that our manager is using a whopping sample size of 4 ABs on which to base potentially game turning decisions....

So are you suggesting that he shouldn't have used that fact in his evaluation? If so, I respectfully disagree.


I'm suggesting exactly that. No conclusions can be drawn from four at-bats.


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 Post subject: Re: May 19, 2010 Brewers (15-24) vs Pirates (17-22)
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:15 am 
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you are kidding, right?

you do understand that to get to a "statistically significant" evaluation, one actually has to get the AB's?

Using your logic, we should be running Clement out there every day because he hasn't had enough ABs at the MLB level yet to meaningfully figure him out.

It is perfectly acceptable to look down the bench and say "hey, until you show me you CAN'T hit this guy" ... I'm running you out there.

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 Post subject: Re: May 19, 2010 Brewers (15-24) vs Pirates (17-22)
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:16 am 
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jaybee24 wrote:
burghermeister wrote:
jaybee24 wrote:
Good ol' JR...it's great that our manager is using a whopping sample size of 4 ABs on which to base potentially game turning decisions....

So are you suggesting that he shouldn't have used that fact in his evaluation? If so, I respectfully disagree.


I'm suggesting exactly that. No conclusions can be drawn from four at-bats.

I don't think you can draw many conclusions from an 0 for 4 but you can certainly draw some preliminary conclusions from 3 for 4 with a HR.


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 Post subject: Re: May 19, 2010 Brewers (15-24) vs Pirates (17-22)
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:22 am 
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ZelieMike wrote:
It is perfectly acceptable to look down the bench and say "hey, until you show me you CAN'T hit this guy" ... I'm running you out there.


To play Devil's Advocate ZM, what would you do if the same situation arose again taking into consideration what Clement did last night against Wolf?

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 Post subject: Re: May 19, 2010 Brewers (15-24) vs Pirates (17-22)
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:25 am 
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Look down the bench and see who is hot against him, or at least the least cold...

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