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 Post subject: April 27, 2010 Pirates (7-12) at Brewers (9-10)
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:19 pm 
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1. Andrew McCutchen, CF
2. Andy LaRoche, 3B
3. Lastings Milledge, LF
4. Garrett Jones, RF
5. Ryan Doumit, C
6. Jeff Clement, 1B
7. Aki Iwamura, 2B
8. Jeff Karstens, P
9. Ronny Cedeno, SS

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1. Rickie Weeks, 2B
2. Craig Counsell, SS
3. Ryan Braun, LF
4. Prince Fielder, 1B
5. Casey McGehee, 3B
6. Jim Edmonds, CF
7. Corey Hart, RF
8. George Kottaras, C
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 Post subject: Re: April 27, 2010 Pirates (7-12) at Brewers (9-10)
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Jeff Karstens is pitching a fine game. It might be the best starting effort by any Pirate starting pitcher this year so far.

Keep it up Jeff!

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 Post subject: Re: April 27, 2010 Pirates (7-12) at Brewers (9-10)
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Jeff Clement! Way to go. One HR and now a long double to CF.

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 Post subject: Re: April 27, 2010 Pirates (7-12) at Brewers (9-10)
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Laroche Karstens and Clement are looking pretty good. Karstens willl probably get a regular rotation spot now.

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 Post subject: Re: April 27, 2010 Pirates (7-12) at Brewers (9-10)
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You get good pitching but still no offense. I still would rather have an offense that can put lots of runs up on the board and "ok" pitching rather than "great" pitching with a lousy offense.

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 Post subject: Re: April 27, 2010 Pirates (7-12) at Brewers (9-10)
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So much for the great string experiment. Soooo tired of getting burned on pitches left up in the strike zone.

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 Post subject: Re: April 27, 2010 Pirates (7-12) at Brewers (9-10)
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 Post subject: Re: April 27, 2010 Pirates (7-12) at Brewers (9-10)
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We finally beat the Brewers @ Miller Park!!!

Just feels good to get a win.

And sooooo good to see Doumit do anything positive.

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 Post subject: Re: April 27, 2010 Pirates (7-12) at Brewers (9-10)
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And to think all it took to get him in gear was a foul ball to the nuts...

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 Post subject: Re: April 27, 2010 Pirates (7-12) at Brewers (9-10)
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Doumit looked like he'd hit the perfect 8 iron...stared it down and everything. Great game by Karstens too. That was a pitching exhibition. Only one really bad baserunning play tonight. I'm not sure Clement doesn't get caught off second anyway on that one. Great double play turned by Cedeno/Iwamura. Ronnie is looking pretty good. NIce game guys!


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 Post subject: Re: April 27, 2010 Pirates (7-12) at Brewers (9-10)
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It was just nice to see some watchable baseball being played out there tonight. It felt really nice to see the win but man...those other games were hard on the eyes!

I know there was some rule involved in this, but why wasn't Karstens called up to replace Ohlendorf again? Why exactly did we need to suffer through Burres? I just don't understand what the rule was.

Anyhow, it's also nice to see that tomorrow Maholm will have the benefit of a more rested bullpen.


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 Post subject: Re: April 27, 2010 Pirates (7-12) at Brewers (9-10)
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NDL wrote:

I know there was some rule involved in this, but why wasn't Karstens called up to replace Ohlendorf again? Why exactly did we need to suffer through Burres? I just don't understand what the rule was.



Well, Karstens was sporting a 7.31 ERA as an AAA reliever, so it wasn't exactly an ideal call-up. And while I hate to do so, I will most likely think of his performance tonight as a fluke (perhaps still trying to get revenge out of the Dave Kerwin incident?).

At any rate, as you said, "watchable baseball" was a dire need after the past week and a half.


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 Post subject: Re: April 27, 2010 Pirates (7-12) at Brewers (9-10)
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As far as Karstens goes, he wasn't really awful last year. He's a serviceable pitcher. I don't necessarily like him in the rotation but you can do a lot worse (and we know because we did this already this year). I kind of thought of him being bumped out of the rotation as having someone just as good with more upside: Dan McCutchen. Granted, McCutchen has been awful this year but you would think that if he was able to be called up before he would have been the guy to get the call over Burres.

When you look at Karstens from last year he looked out of place with the other starters because everyone was pitching better. We were getting a lot better starts in the beginning of the year from Duke, Ohlendorf, Maholm. This year Duke and Maholm have been ok but when the bullpen has to take over all 3 other starts because of the Morton, McCutchen, and whoever was pitching for Ohlendorf fiasco it causes real trouble. The best thing Karstens did tonight was give the bullpen a little rest.


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 Post subject: Re: April 27, 2010 Pirates (7-12) at Brewers (9-10)
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Karstens ERA in Indy was high because he was working on a sinker and was having problems with it...

I missed part of the game, but I dont think he threw it all lastnight. That and I think the hitters were afraid he was gonna get bean ball crazy with that fastball of his...lol

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 Post subject: Re: April 27, 2010 Pirates (7-12) at Brewers (9-10)
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NDL wrote:
It was just nice to see some watchable baseball being played out there tonight. It felt really nice to see the win but man...those other games were hard on the eyes!

I know there was some rule involved in this, but why wasn't Karstens called up to replace Ohlendorf again? Why exactly did we need to suffer through Burres? I just don't understand what the rule was.

Anyhow, it's also nice to see that tomorrow Maholm will have the benefit of a more rested bullpen.

As I understand it, Karstens was passed over because he spent all spring preparing to pitch in relief and he wasn't ready to throw enough pitches to use him as a starter.

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sisyphus wrote:
As I understand it, Karstens was passed over because he spent all spring preparing to pitch in relief and he wasn't ready to throw enough pitches to use him as a starter.


The ironic part of that is the relievers have probably thrown more pitches than the starters...

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