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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:40 pm 
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And thanks to Jose Guillen for that awful display of defense to allow Andy LaRoche to get a generously scored triple.

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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:43 pm 
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Laroche brothers are 5-6, with the only out the line drive back to the pitcher by Andy that Grienke lucked into snagging.

Hinske has really sucked the life out of the offense. Royals have no infielder within 75' of the third base foul line and Hinske cannot take advantage by hitting a ground ball to 3rd, the hole at 3rd/SS, or to normal SS position. A routine ground ball to those areas = a hit.


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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:46 pm 
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P.S. Delwayn Young is a better hitter from the left side than the right this year. He is hitting .335/.433/.448 as a lefty. He would have made the line-up a ton better against Grienke, I suspect, since he can crush the fastball.


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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:47 pm 
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Bucfan wrote:
P.S. Delwayn Young is a better hitter from the left side than the right this year. He is hitting .335/.433/.448 as a lefty. He would have made the line-up a ton better against Grienke, I suspect, since he can crush the fastball.


I agree I don't see why Young would sit after having such a good game the day before and seeing the ball good all year.


Now we wait for the rains to stop.

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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
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The longer Greinke sits, the more likely he will be out of the game.

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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
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This delay could really help the Pirates keeps Grienkie out and Meek was probably leaving the game anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
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No way Grienke is brought back after this long a delay. That being said, Andrew McCutchen and Eric Hinske have really been lifesavers for Grienke this game. The other hitters are getting some pitches to hit and having some good swings against him.

It just seems that every time something gets rolling, McCutchen or Hinske would fan or hit a weak fly ball.


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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
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Two runs off Greinke. I'll take it. Now get to their bullpen in the 8th and 9th.

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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
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It is a game. The question is, "Can Steven Jackson keep the game 3-2??" Watching Jackson pitch is sometimes like watching a high-wire performer in training.


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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
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It is a game. The question is, "Can Steven Jackson keep the game 3-2??" Watching Jackson pitch is sometimes like watching a high-wire performer in training.


Same with Meek though and he got out unscathed.

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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
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Ryann wrote:
Same with Meek though and he got out unscathed.

Different tupes of pitchers, though. Meek gets behind and walks guys but can overpower hitters. Jackson cannot.


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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
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Rain costs Greinke another complete game. :evil:


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high mileage wrote:
Rain costs Greinke another complete game. :evil:

Grienke was getting hit in the 7th. After the second run scores, the CG is done as soon as a guy gets on base and a lefty is coming up.


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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
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Bucfan wrote:
high mileage wrote:
Rain costs Greinke another complete game. :evil:

Grienke was getting hit in the 7th. After the second run scores, the CG is done as soon as a guy gets on base and a lefty is coming up.


He was at 80 pitches, and our bullpen has been a disaster. He would have completed the game unless the Pirates tied it.


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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
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Game was lost when Jaramillo had trouble, for some reason, getting a handle on Laroche's throw home. The throw beat the runner easily and was on target but Jaramillo caught the ball on the heel of the mitt and was fighting to get control. He was late putting the tag down, and the runner was safe by about 1/10th of a second.

Jaramillo's difficulty handling the throw made the difference. That was the 3rd and final run for the Royals.


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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
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On the radio side during the rain delay Greg Brown and Steve Blass fielded some phone calls from fans...

It scares me theres so many people that think running a winning organization is just having players on the Major League roster...

A guy called in with some study that showed payrolls of cities smaller than Pittsburgh and how they spent more money and Brown simply reminded them how Washington and Cleveland both have bigger payrolls and are worse than the Pirates...

Some guy called in complaining how Pittsburgh is the tryout team for the rest of baseball and how he would like to have a favorit player here for 10 years or longer...

It scares me that the work in the Minors is going unlooked...I am truly hoping for Neal and Frank to pull this off...A) To have winning baseball in Pittsburgh again, and B) To stick it to these guys who dont get it...

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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
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high mileage wrote:
He was at 80 pitches, and our bullpen has been a disaster. He would have completed the game unless the Pirates tied it.

Thank you, Trey Hillman.

And of course no manager would remove a starter in a 3-2 game, with the go-ahead run being a left-handed hitter, right after the starter gave up another hit.

Grienke was okay today. His "ehhh" performance is exemplified by the low K total. Hillman was not going to lose the game by leaving him out there when he was not at top level. If he was dominating, then sure, but not based on what he was doing today.


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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
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Bucfan wrote:
high mileage wrote:
He was at 80 pitches, and our bullpen has been a disaster. He would have completed the game unless the Pirates tied it.

Thank you, Trey Hillman.

And of course no manager would remove a starter in a 3-2 game, with the go-ahead run being a left-handed hitter, right after the starter gave up another hit.

Grienke was okay today. His "ehhh" performance is exemplified by the low K total. Hillman was not going to lose the game by leaving him out there when he was not at top level. If he was dominating, then sure, but not based on what he was doing today.


Yeah what do I know? I've only watched every single pitch he's thrown in 16 starts this season, and he only has 5 complete games this year.

Lefties aren't fairing much better against him them righties, and we don't really have a lefty-specialist. Greinke's outings have been determined by his pitch count, not his strikeouts.


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nad69dan wrote:
On the radio side during the rain delay Greg Brown and Steve Blass fielded some phone calls from fans...

It scares me theres so many people that think running a winning organization is just having players on the Major League roster...

A guy called in with some study that showed payrolls of cities smaller than Pittsburgh and how they spent more money and Brown simply reminded them how Washington and Cleveland both have bigger payrolls and are worse than the Pirates...

Some guy called in complaining how Pittsburgh is the tryout team for the rest of baseball and how he would like to have a favorit player here for 10 years or longer...

It scares me that the work in the Minors is going unlooked...I am truly hoping for Neal and Frank to pull this off...A) To have winning baseball in Pittsburgh again, and B) To stick it to these guys who dont get it...

It's because a lot of people don't care about the minor leagues just how the major league team performs.

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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
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high mileage wrote:
Yeah what do I know?

A: More than you.

P.S. Your team lost 2 of 3. I suspect that you too busy worshipping at Grienke's altar to notice that.


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