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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:40 pm 
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Tough weekend for McCutchen, too: 0-for-10 (although he K'd only twice). The ball just wasn't dropping in anywhere after he hit it.

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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:43 pm 
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Bucfan wrote:
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Yeah what do I know?

A: More than you.

P.S. Your team lost 2 of 3. I suspect that you too busy worshipping at Grienke's altar to notice that.

A: I know more than I know? Ok...?

P.S. They lost 2 of 3 to a better team. And even without Greinke, your offense couldn't crack our crappy bullpen.


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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:48 pm 
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Our offense often has trouble cracking a bat, much less a bullpen.

That aside, I enjoyed the ride it gave the bullpen yesterday.

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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
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high mileage wrote:
P.S. They lost 2 of 3 to a better team. And even without Greinke, your offense couldn't crack our crappy bullpen.

Yes, of course, 2 2/3 innings is great sample size on which to offer assessment, since the two prior games don't count.


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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:51 pm 
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Bucfan wrote:
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P.S. They lost 2 of 3 to a better team. And even without Greinke, your offense couldn't crack our crappy bullpen.

Yes, of course, 2 2/3 innings is great sample size on which to offer assessment, since the two prior games don't count.

Greinke didn't pitch the prior two games, now did he?


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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
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high mileage wrote:
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P.S. They lost 2 of 3 to a better team. And even without Greinke, your offense couldn't crack our crappy bullpen.

Yes, of course, 2 2/3 innings is great sample size on which to offer assessment, since the two prior games don't count.

Greinke didn't pitch the prior two games, now did he?

Holy shit, I didn't think I would have to explain the basics.

THE BULLPEN DID.

Get it now??


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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:02 pm 
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And just to explain further to you.

In the two prior games, the Royals pen went 4 2/3 innings, giving up 5 hits and 3 earned runs. That works out to an ERA of 5.79.

See, that would not be good.

Get it?


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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
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Bucfan wrote:
Holy shit, I didn't think I would have to explain the basics.

THE BULLPEN DID.

Get it now??

Right, but you got butthurt when I said the rain delay cost Greinke a complete game. So we were talking about Greinke, and today's game, not the bullpen or the previous two games.


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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
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high mileage wrote:
Bucfan wrote:
Holy shit, I didn't think I would have to explain the basics.

THE BULLPEN DID.

Get it now??

Right, but you got butthurt when I said the rain delay cost Greinke a complete game. So we were talking about Greinke, and today's game, not the bullpen or the previous two games.


The bullpen saved this game for the Royals. I think we were just about to get Greinke on the hook for the loss. The Royals bullpen didn't even up a hit today, our bullpen didn't do too bad either though. Tough game to lose. I would have liked to have seen this game without the rain delay.

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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:03 pm 
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"He's one of best in baseball and showed why," Freddy Sanchez said. "He pretty much shut us down."

Greinke wasn't overpowering, yet didn't allow an extra-base hit until Andy LaRoche tripled off the right-field wall during a driving rain in the seventh to score brother Adam LaRoche, who singled. Immediately after Adam LaRoche made it down the muddy third-base line, plate umpire Tom Hallion stopped play.

"It felt like I could throw it wherever I wanted to [for five innings]," said Greinke, who had trouble gripping the ball once a hard rain began falling. "I've pitched in bad weather before, but usually better than that."

"Zack was having a little bit of a problem ... he always takes [the sign] from the set position with the ball in his hand, but in that situation he wasn't able to keep it dry," manager Trey Hillman said.

Greinke, making his first career start against Pittsburgh, allowed two runs or fewer for the 12th time in 16 games.


I would have loved to have seen it without rain as well...


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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:11 pm 
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Nope. Disagree.

They had gotten to him by the rainfall. He wasn't going to make it a complete game, or if he was, he was going to lose. Too many Pirates, especially the LaRoches', were hitting him too hard, all day.

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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:22 pm 
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You know what is funny. Today would have been great for a 7:05 start. It is beautiful out now, it has turned into a really nice day out.


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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:22 pm 
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ZelieMike wrote:
Nope. Disagree.

They had gotten to him by the rainfall. He wasn't going to make it a complete game, or if he was, he was going to lose. Too many Pirates, especially the LaRoches', were hitting him too hard, all day.

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Greinke didn't allow an extra-base hit until Andy LaRoche tripled off the right-field wall during a driving rain in the 7th to score brother Adam LaRoche, who singled. Immediately after Adam LaRoche made it down the muddy third-base line, plate umpire Tom Hallion stopped play.


McCutchen: 0 for 4, 16 pitches, 1 K
Morgan: 1 for 4, 12 pitches, single
Sanchez: 0 for 4, 12 pitches, 2 K's
Hinske: 0 for 4, 15 pitches, 1 K
Jarmillo: 0 for 3, 7 pitches
Wilson: 1 for 3, 12 pitches, 1 single
Moss: 0 for 1, 3 pitches
Young: 0 for 1, 4 pitches


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 Post subject: Re: June 28, 2009 Royals (31-42) at Pirates (35-39)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:49 am 
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Don't care.

I watched Ad LaRoche just kill him ever AB, and others just drive the ball as singles, or into mitts.

He wasn't going to make it all game that way.

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