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 Post subject: At least Bucs have a plan Joe Starkey
PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:10 am 
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For the most part, I agree with this

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An optimist would say the Pirates are executing a youth movement and will be winners within five years.....A pessimist would say the cheapskate Pirates are never going to escape the sad cycle of trading their best players for suspects and rejects and that 16 years of losing will turn to 25 before you can say, "We Will." ...Me? I'm somewhere in between....Nothing is guaranteed, of course. Huntington might prove every bit as unskilled as his predecessors. Owner Bob Nutting might never spend enough money to field a legitimate contender


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 Post subject: Re: At least Bucs have a plan Joe Starkey
PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:32 am 
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Too bad you took the quote completely out of context.

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 Post subject: Re: At least Bucs have a plan Joe Starkey
PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:34 am 
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Willton wrote:
Too bad you took the quote completely out of context.


You expected something better from him?


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 Post subject: Re: At least Bucs have a plan Joe Starkey
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Willton wrote:
Too bad you took the quote completely out of context.


Nothing was taken out of context....for the most part I agree with Starkey. Anyone who says the Pirates made a good trade or bad trade has what to base it on? Short term, it is a bad trade, the team is not improved. On a longer term basis, 3 to 5 years, then and only then can you look back and make a judgement.

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 Post subject: Re: At least Bucs have a plan Joe Starkey
PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:28 am 
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I've seen and heard statements like this written and said in a lot of different venues over the past 24 hours:

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The next step better be to sign first-round draft pick Pedro Alvarez, no matter the cost, by the Aug. 15 deadline.


The hissing sound you hear in the background is the air rushing out of the Frank-Coonley's-Leverage-Over-Scott-Boras balloon.

:lol: <== Boras
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 Post subject: Re: At least Bucs have a plan Joe Starkey
PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:52 am 
I never even read Starkey. His writings carry no credibility in my mind.


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 Post subject: Re: At least Bucs have a plan Joe Starkey
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Elmer wrote:
I never even read Starkey. His writings carry no credibility in my mind.

Did you read this one?

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 Post subject: Re: At least Bucs have a plan Joe Starkey
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burghermeister wrote:
I've seen and heard statements like this written and said in a lot of different venues over the past 24 hours:

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The next step better be to sign first-round draft pick Pedro Alvarez, no matter the cost, by the Aug. 15 deadline.


The hissing sound you hear in the background is the air rushing out of the Frank-Coonley's-Leverage-Over-Scott-Boras balloon.

:lol: <== Boras
:roll: <== Coonley

On the contrary, the hissing you heard came from Boras when he found out that LaRoche was included in the Bay deal.

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 Post subject: Re: At least Bucs have a plan Joe Starkey
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sisyphus wrote:
burghermeister wrote:
I've seen and heard statements like this written and said in a lot of different venues over the past 24 hours:

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The next step better be to sign first-round draft pick Pedro Alvarez, no matter the cost, by the Aug. 15 deadline.


The hissing sound you hear in the background is the air rushing out of the Frank-Coonley's-Leverage-Over-Scott-Boras balloon.

:lol: <== Boras
:roll: <== Coonley

On the contrary, the hissing you heard came from Boras when he found out that LaRoche was included in the Bay deal.


Disagree. Boras and Coonley both know that Pirate fans will be outside PNC Park with torches if Alvarez is not signed by the 15th. Boras has the upper hand.


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 Post subject: Re: At least Bucs have a plan Joe Starkey
PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:36 am 
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burghermeister wrote:
Disagree. Boras and Coonley both know that Pirate fans will be outside PNC Park with torches if Alvarez is not signed by the 15th. Boras has the upper hand.

And if Alvarez is not signed by the 15th, he doesn't get paid for 2008-2009. Further, he must enter the draft next year, and from what I understand about next year's draft class, Alvarez would not be the #2 draft pick next year. With the 8/15 deadline, Boras can't string teams along like he did with Stephen Drew and Jared Weaver. Believe me, there's plenty of pressure on both sides.

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 Post subject: Re: At least Bucs have a plan Joe Starkey
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I agree, both sides want to make a deal, and I expect that they will.

The last thing Alvarez wants to do is go back to college for another year.


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 Post subject: Re: At least Bucs have a plan Joe Starkey
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Willton wrote:
burghermeister wrote:
Disagree. Boras and Coonley both know that Pirate fans will be outside PNC Park with torches if Alvarez is not signed by the 15th. Boras has the upper hand.

And if Alvarez is not signed by the 15th, he doesn't get paid for 2008-2009. Further, he must enter the draft next year, and from what I understand about next year's draft class, Alvarez would not be the #2 draft pick next year. With the 8/15 deadline, Boras can't string teams along like he did with Stephen Drew and Jared Weaver. Believe me, there's plenty of pressure on both sides.


Yes, I hope that PBC maintains the hard line and doesn't give in to DL type standards.


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