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 Post subject: Osoria question
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:11 am 
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just a question to the board staff :


what is osoria' s utility in this team ? i understood he eat a bunch of innings but ......

his ERA is terrible and every time he takes the mound i pray and my knees are shaky ...

how many games did he cost to us ?

thanks for your analyze 8-)


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 Post subject: Re: Osoria question
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:42 am 
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Fanch, by my reckoning, Osoria is directly responsible or has to share the blame for at least five losses so far this season.

April 4 vs. Florida: He came in to pitch the bottom of the 9th in a 4-4 tie, gave up two hits and a run, and was charged with the loss.

April 20 vs. Chicago Cubs: The Pirates were behind when he relieved Zach Duke in the 5th, but had just scored 3 runs in the top half of the inning to make it interesting. Osorio gave up 6 hits and 5 more runs, two of them on a homer by Aramis Ramirez. By the time he was done, the Bucs were down 10-3 and they went on to lose, 13-6. Duke was charged with the loss, but Osoria obviously was horrible.

May 3 vs. Washington: Pirates were down two runs in the bottom of the 6th when he relieved Maholm. In one inning of work, Osoria gave up 3 hits and 2 runs to make the score 9-5. That was significant because the Pirates rallied for 3 more runs, although they ended up losing 9-8. Maholm was charged with the loss, but Osoria pretty much ensured that the game was out of reach for the Buc offense.

June 13 vs. Baltimore: Osoria relieved Phil Dumatrait in the 6th inning with the Pirates up 6-5. He pitched two-thirds of an inning, gave up 3 hits and 2 runs, and left with the Orioles ahead 7-6. He was charged with the loss and a blown save.

June 17 vs. Chicago White Sox (this one may be stretching the point a bit): Osoria relieved Ian Snell in the 5th, with the Bucs down, 7-5. Instead of stopping the bleeding, he allowed 4 hits and 3 runs in two innings and left with the score 11-5. Marino Salas followed him to the mound and gave up 5 more runs and the Pirates eventually lost, 16-5. But Osoria didn't help matters.

July 13 vs. St. Louis: Osoria came in to pitch the 7th inning with the Pirates ahead, 6-4. He got only one hitter out, giving up 4 hits and 4 runs in a game the Pirates lost, 11-6. He was the losing pitcher and also was charged with a blown save.

Osoria pitched badly in a May 31 game vs. St. Louis, allowing 5 hits and 3 runs in 1-1/3 innings. But it didn't matter because the Bucs won, 14-4. On June 8, he gave up 2 hits and 2 runs in 2/3 of an inning, but the Pirates won, 6-4 against Arizona. And on June 25, he allowed a run on 3 hits in one inning of work against the Mets, but the Pirates were shut out, 10-0.

Hope this info helps.

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 Post subject: Re: Osoria question
PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:45 am 
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He was solid for some part of the season. I think he had some sort of injury.

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 Post subject: Re: Osoria question
PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:22 pm 
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Ryann wrote:
He was solid for some part of the season. I think he had some sort of injury.


He had a 2-week run where he gave up 1 run in 14 innings. Other than that, he has been eminently hittable the entire year.

The league is hitting him at .342./.382/.550 for a total .930 OPS this year. If he was a hitter, his OPS would rank 17th in the major leagues, ahead of guys like Manny Ramirez, Grady Sizemore, Josh Hamilton, and Jason Bay.


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 Post subject: Re: Osoria question
PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:23 pm 
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Great research Bob.
Osoria just stinks the joint up - in your vernacular.

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 Post subject: Re: Osoria question
PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:56 pm 
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Like DK has said before, Osoria as a rubber arm and having a guy like that is too tempting for a manager to pass up seemingly without regard to performance.

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