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 Post subject: Why is Laroche hitting as high as 6th?
PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 2:30 pm 
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Why is Adam Laroche hitting as high as 6th?

Nats have a left-hander going. Laroche is not hitting, unless we think that a 5-23, 0 HR's, 1 RBI, 8 strikeout streak is "hitting."

Of course, Laroche comes to the plate bases loaded, two out in the first inning and promptly squelches the rally by hitting a roller to second base on the first pitch.

Another trademark Laroche at bat.

Oh, gee, Bucfan is picking on Laroche. Well, to mollify Econo and Sisy, if Freddy Sanchez swings at another pitch that lands two feet in front of the plate, I am going to scream. He has done exactly this in consecutive games.

Don't swing at pitches that are wild pitches. Have a first baseman that can bring his OPS over .600. Maybe I am asking too much.


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Maholm does not look good. Gives a base hit up to STBHOF Matt Chico. Maholm is not throwing strikes. What the hell is his problem?
I think we have a bunch of head cases again as starting pitchers..........geesh.......... :x

Greg Brown was spewing stats for Maholm at PNC vs on the road. No comparison. Maholm is very good at PNC and stinks on the road.

As I type, Maholm gives up another base hit...........Nats 3 Bucs 1.

Only the 2nd inning, Nats still have the bases loaded with 1 out....

Nats just score another run...............Nats 4 Bucs 1...........that should be enough for STBHOF Matt Chico to get his first win this season............. :x

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Greg Brown was spewing stats for Maholm at PNC vs on the road. No comparison. Maholm is very good at PNC and stinks on the road.


Maybe Maholm should have a stipulation in his contract stating he can only pitch at PNC Park.


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Someone asked in the Pub the last time Maholm pitched whether I thought he finally had settled down, and I said "yes."

I now take that back.

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 Post subject: Re: Why is Laroche hitting as high as 6th?
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I just have a sneaking suspicion that this game - bad as it looks right now - isn't quite over yet.
But, it is a microcosm of the season. LaRoche fails in the first with the bags juiced and Maholm stakes the opponent to a big early lead.

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 Post subject: Re: Why is Laroche hitting as high as 6th?
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Here are Maholm's ERA stats:

vs. Left: .185
vs. Right: .274
Home: 0.89 Road: 8.10
Day: 1.00
Night: 4.22
Grass: 3.26
Turf: ---
Current Month: --- Last 30 Days: 3.26


oh.......and LaRoche just strikes out to end another rally with runners on 1st and 3rd
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 Post subject: Re: Why is Laroche hitting as high as 6th?
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No. 9 wrote:
I just have a sneaking suspicion that this game - bad as it looks right now - isn't quite over yet.
But, it is a microcosm of the season. LaRoche fails in the first with the bags juiced and Maholm stakes the opponent to a big early lead.


With the caveat of LaRoche not coming to bat in key situations . . . :evil:

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 Post subject: Re: Why is Laroche hitting as high as 6th?
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Adam Laroche has personally accounted for 5 runners left on base in 3 innings.

He could set a record this game. I am very excited . . .

Who cares. Time to do something other than watch another miserable effort, against a crappy team, and a horrible starting pitcher.


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 Post subject: Re: Why is Laroche hitting as high as 6th?
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No way...LaRoche is now hitting with two more runners on base...

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 Post subject: Re: Why is Laroche hitting as high as 6th?
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Maholm really needs to come out and put up a quick 1, 2, 3.
Then the top of the order will put the Bucs on top in this game.
Gotta keep the foot on the throat.

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 Post subject: Re: Why is Laroche hitting as high as 6th?
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Wow.
Lost ball in the sun.
Will wonders never cease?

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 Post subject: Re: Why is Laroche hitting as high as 6th?
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6th inning and Acta called for another sacrifice bunt. Lopez' failure to execute results in the lost ball in the sun. Unbelievable.

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 Post subject: Re: Why is Laroche hitting as high as 6th?
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Bucfan wrote:
Why is Adam Laroche hitting as high as 6th?

For the same reason Freddy Sanchez his hitting third, lol.

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Don't swing at pitches that are wild pitches. Have a first baseman that can bring his OPS over .600. Maybe I am asking too much.

We already have one. In fact, we have one that has only failed to get his OPS over .800 one time.

But if you can pry Pujols loose from the Cards, have at it.

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 Post subject: Re: Why is Laroche hitting as high as 6th?
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sisyphus wrote:
For the same reason Freddy Sanchez his hitting third, lol.


Adam Laroche won a batting title? And has a career average over .300? Huh. Did not know that.

sisyphus wrote:
We already have one.


Are you insane? You have no problem with Laroche's hitting?

Do you think that he will end this year with an OPS over .800? Not likely at all. His OBP will hover around .330-.340 once the Pirates are 15 games out. His slugging is going to be aabout the same as last year. In other words, completely below average.

Mediocrity is his goal. I am wishing him the best.


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 Post subject: Re: Why is Laroche hitting as high as 6th?
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Bucfan wrote:
sisyphus wrote:
For the same reason Freddy Sanchez his hitting third, lol.


Adam Laroche won a batting title? And has a career average over .300? Huh. Did not know that.

Yes, and Freddy's batting title in 2006 has SO much bearing on his ability to hit in 2008.

And if we're going to talk about career averages, at least be fair: Adam LaRoche has a career OPS of .813. If you're going to slam LaRoche for his early season slump, you have to do the same with Freddy. If you're going to point to Freddy's career averages as an excuse, you have to do the same with LaRoche. Otherwise you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

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sisyphus wrote:
We already have one.


Are you insane? You have no problem with Laroche's hitting?

Do you think that he will end this year with an OPS over .800? Not likely at all. His OBP will hover around .330-.340 once the Pirates are 15 games out. His slugging is going to be aabout the same as last year. In other words, completely below average.

Mediocrity is his goal. I am wishing him the best.

We all have a problem with LaRoche's hitting right now, but he has hit over .600 OPS in the past, and he probably will this year too. And in your post that Sisy replied to, that's apparently what you were asking for. So no, Sisy is not insane; he was pointing out that your request has been met. Apparently you need to phrase your requests better than that.

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 Post subject: Re: Why is Laroche hitting as high as 6th?
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Willton wrote:
Yes, and Freddy's batting title in 2006 has SO much bearing on his ability to hit in 2008.


So, why do you say this???

Willton wrote:
And if we're going to talk about career averages, at least be fair: Adam LaRoche has a career OPS of .813. ... LaRoche's has hit over .600 OPS in the past, and he probably will this year too.


So it's okay for Sisy and you to focus on Laroche's past hitting - most of which is pre-Buccos, and most of which for the Pirates sucks - but I cannot refer to Sanchez' hitting for the Pirates' organization?

Okaaaaay ...

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We all have a problem with LaRoche's hitting right now, but he has hit over .600 OPS in the past, and he probably will this year too.


Yeah, the .600 OPS was a joke, since the debate arose about Nieves and his woeful .515 OPS, which is actually higher than Laroche's OPS this season.

Get it? Do I really need to put one of these :roll: on my facetious posts?

If so, that smiley would be in a lot of my contributions.


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 Post subject: Re: Why is Laroche hitting as high as 6th?
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Bucfan wrote:
Willton wrote:
Yes, and Freddy's batting title in 2006 has SO much bearing on his ability to hit in 2008.


So, why do you say this???

Willton wrote:
And if we're going to talk about career averages, at least be fair: Adam LaRoche has a career OPS of .813. ... LaRoche's has hit over .600 OPS in the past, and he probably will this year too.


So it's okay for Sisy and you to focus on Laroche's past hitting - most of which is pre-Buccos, and most of which for the Pirates sucks - but I cannot refer to Sanchez' hitting for the Pirates' organization?

Okaaaaay ...

No, the point is that if it's okay for you to point to Sanchez's history of hitting as a reason to not be concerned about Freddy, then it should be okay to point to LaRoche's history as a reason not to be concerned about LaRoche. However, if we're going to complain about LaRoche's slow start, then it should be equally fair game to complain about Freddy's slow start. The fact that you keep giving them disparate treatment in spite of their similar circumstances evidences your hypocrisy.

If you want to complain about LaRoche's performance on the whole and not about his performance in a month's time, then I could understand your complaint. But the fact is that you are focusing SOLELY on LaRoche's poor display in a month's time, as if you expect him to hit like that the entire year despite LaRoche's history. Then you jump up and down about Freddy's 2-year-old batting title when someone else points out Freddy's similarly disappointing play in that month's time, as if that exonerates him from the same criticism you give LaRoche. You are talking out of both sides of your mouth.

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Willton wrote:
We all have a problem with LaRoche's hitting right now, but he has hit over .600 OPS in the past, and he probably will this year too.


Yeah, the .600 OPS was a joke, since the debate arose about Nieves and his woeful .515 OPS, which is actually higher than Laroche's OPS this season.

Get it? Do I really need to put one of these :roll: on my facetious posts?

If so, that smiley would be in a lot of my contributions.

No, the point here is that if you're going to be a jackass by making facetious requests, then you should fully expect someone else to be a jackass back by responding as if your facetious requests were taken literally.

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