Proud fans of a 128-year old tradition

It is currently Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:11 pm

All times are UTC - 4 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 31 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: 7/2/08 Pirates @ Reds
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:13 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:45 pm
Posts: 121
Location: béziers /france
russell get this crap out of the game pleazzzzzzzzzz !

oh boy he hurts me :evil:


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: 7/2/08 Pirates @ Reds
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:14 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:09 pm
Posts: 2083
Location: Hingham, MA
2-1/3 innings. 5 hits. 5 earned runs. 2 homers and a double. ERA up to 10.64. Wow.

Sad.

_________________
If you think nobody notices you and you're all alone, try not paying your bills.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: 7/2/08 Pirates @ Reds
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:16 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:54 pm
Posts: 5770
Location: Keystone State
Bob in Boston wrote:
2-1/3 innings. 5 hits. 5 earned runs. 2 homers and a double. ERA up to 10.64. Wow.

Sad.


You are being too nice Bob. Three homers. :cry:

_________________
The Bucs are going all the way, all the way this year!


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: 7/2/08 Pirates @ Reds
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:20 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:09 pm
Posts: 2083
Location: Hingham, MA
Ah, yes. 3 HRs. Sorry, BB, my bad. Got to give Jay Bruce his due, I suppose.

_________________
If you think nobody notices you and you're all alone, try not paying your bills.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: 7/2/08 Pirates @ Reds
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:34 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:54 pm
Posts: 5770
Location: Keystone State
As I watch JVB leave, I wonder if he would have been a legit MLB hitter.

And why couldn't the Pirates pull an Ankiel and at least give it a try. Seriously, what do they have to lose.

_________________
The Bucs are going all the way, all the way this year!


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: 7/2/08 Pirates @ Reds
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:39 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:09 pm
Posts: 2083
Location: Hingham, MA
Tough night for Jimmy Barthmaier in his first start back at Indianapolis.

Gives up 5 hits (one a 3-run HR), 3 walks, and a wild pitch in 4 innings . . . so far.

_________________
If you think nobody notices you and you're all alone, try not paying your bills.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: 7/2/08 Pirates @ Reds
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:48 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:26 pm
Posts: 3006
bucco boy wrote:
What the hell was Rivas doing on that double? The relay gets to Jack and Rivas isn't even standing at the base. I think they had a chance to get him but Rivas is standing four feet away from the base.

:o :shock:


As much as it pains me to defend Rivas, I saw the play a bit differently, BB. The only way they nail the runner is if the throw is on the bag. A relay from Jack would be too late, I believe. So when the throw was 5 feet off the line towards RF and Jack had to go get it, Rivas gave up the bag to back up Jack on the throw. I think it was the right choice. Having said that, if the throw is on line, Rivas has to be on the bag to get it, and Jack has to let it go through to him.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: 7/2/08 Pirates @ Reds
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:00 am
Posts: 2807
Injured shoulder for X-Man? What injured shoulder? 3-3 with 2 HRs and 3 RBIs.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: 7/2/08 Pirates @ Reds
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:28 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:09 pm
Posts: 2083
Location: Hingham, MA
Triple for LaRoche. Is it just Cincinnati pitching, or has the lad finally -- finally -- found his stroke?

_________________
If you think nobody notices you and you're all alone, try not paying your bills.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: 7/2/08 Pirates @ Reds
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:59 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:12 pm
Posts: 171
Don't look now, but Sean Burnett has only given up 1 earned run in his last 8.1 innings. Then again, even Vogelsong had a stretch or two like that.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: 7/2/08 Pirates @ Reds
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:18 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:17 pm
Posts: 519
I'm watching the Rays and Red Sox, and seeing the excitement in Tampa Bay....if only the Pirates could do what the Rays have done, PNC would be jumping. Go Bucs! Nice win tonight!!


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: 7/2/08 Pirates @ Reds
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:57 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:00 am
Posts: 2807
Good win and this very well could have been a Pirates sweep if not for the Capps meltdown to blow the save Monday. The bullpen, notably Denny Bautista and continued good pitching by Grabow and Yates got the job done after a downright atrocious performance by JVB, as expected (well, at least I did). The bats continued to pour on by the usuals (Bay, Nady, Doumit) and notably by LaRoche who has had a monster series in Cincinnati, let's just hope his streak continues.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: 7/2/08 Pirates @ Reds
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:03 am 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:10 pm
Posts: 1919
bucco boy wrote:
As I watch JVB leave, I wonder if he would have been a legit MLB hitter.

And why couldn't the Pirates pull an Ankiel and at least give it a try. Seriously, what do they have to lose.


I just said that to someone today. As his struggles on the mound have piled up I feel more and more sorry for him because EVERYBODY else in MLB was looking at him as a hitter not a pitcher. Doesn't mean he would have made it but it always makes me wonder. The guy has done everything asked of him as far as putting in his work; he simply isn't going to cut it as a MLB pitcher.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: 7/2/08 Pirates @ Reds
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:47 am 
Offline
User avatar
 WWW  YIM  Profile

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:24 pm
Posts: 3941
Location: Zelienople, PA
PirateParrot wrote:

I just said that to someone today. As his struggles on the mound have piled up I feel more and more sorry for him because EVERYBODY else in MLB was looking at him as a hitter not a pitcher..


Sorry Parrot, Snopes alert. This simply is not true, and JvB and his agent both pointed it out in an interview a couple years ago. At least 50% or more of the teams told him that he would be drafted as a pitcher.

ZM

_________________
Someone tell Votto... rbis are good


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: 7/2/08 Pirates @ Reds
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:03 am 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:01 pm
Posts: 7107
bucco boy wrote:
As I watch JVB leave, I wonder if he would have been a legit MLB hitter.

And why couldn't the Pirates pull an Ankiel and at least give it a try. Seriously, what do they have to lose.


I dont think he could swing effectively, doesnt he have some sort of arthritis in his non-pitching shoulder?

At one point wasn't both shoulders operated on within a few weeks of each other?

Its time to donate him to sports science

_________________
I say keep the $50 and ban him anyway...

For those jumping ship, we'll keep the bandwagon warm for you...


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: 7/2/08 Pirates @ Reds
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:17 am 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:11 pm
Posts: 4988
Location: 120 miles west of Iowa City
BBF wrote:
Actually, seeing Rivas batting second again reminded me of what Charlie had written over at Bucs Dugout after last night's game. It struck me as funny, so I'll share it.

Quote:
Do you like it when the Pirates score runs? Games like these can make you wonder whether John Russell does. It appeared the third base umpire tonight wanted the Pirates to score more than Russell did. (At least the ump called Ryan Doumit safe on a play in which he appeared to be out.) On your way home after a game like this one, you may have found yourself wondering whether Russell actively dislikes runs or is merely ambivalent toward them. If someone gave Russell some runs for his birthday, you might think, would he take them and use them, even though he would've preferred, say, a shower radio? If Russell were at a restaurant and the waiter brought a big plate of runs he hadn't ordered, would he send them back because he ordered the shrimp? Tough questions!


Yeah, given the Pirates' run production this year, it is eminently clear that Russell is purposefully sabotaging the lineup.

_________________
Reflexively, obsessively and tastelessly submitted,
No. 9
Obsessive proponent of situational bunting and 2 strike hitting approaches, reflexively pro-catchers calling good games and tasteless proponent of the value of a RBI.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: 7/2/08 Pirates @ Reds
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:35 am 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:18 pm
Posts: 5060
Location: Scotch Plains, NJ
No. 9 wrote:
BBF wrote:
Actually, seeing Rivas batting second again reminded me of what Charlie had written over at Bucs Dugout after last night's game. It struck me as funny, so I'll share it.

Quote:
Do you like it when the Pirates score runs? Games like these can make you wonder whether John Russell does. It appeared the third base umpire tonight wanted the Pirates to score more than Russell did. (At least the ump called Ryan Doumit safe on a play in which he appeared to be out.) On your way home after a game like this one, you may have found yourself wondering whether Russell actively dislikes runs or is merely ambivalent toward them. If someone gave Russell some runs for his birthday, you might think, would he take them and use them, even though he would've preferred, say, a shower radio? If Russell were at a restaurant and the waiter brought a big plate of runs he hadn't ordered, would he send them back because he ordered the shrimp? Tough questions!


Yeah, given the Pirates' run production this year, it is eminently clear that Russell is purposefully sabotaging the lineup.

By seeing Russel bat punch-and-judy players like Rivas, Sanchez, and Jack at the top of the order, one could be easily lead to that conclusion. One could plausibly say that the Bucs are scoring runs in spite of Russell.

_________________
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong."
~H. L. Mencken


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: 7/2/08 Pirates @ Reds
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:41 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:26 pm
Posts: 3006
No. 9 wrote:
Yeah, given the Pirates' run production this year, it is eminently clear that Russell is purposefully sabotaging the lineup.


You don't think they would score MORE runs if they had guys with higher OBP's on base in front of the 3-4-5 hitters? I would argue we are scoring runs DESPITE Russell's lineup, not BECAUSE of it. We are scoring runs because Bay, Nady, and Doumit have been hitting the snot out of the ball (as was Nate, before this cool spell) whereas in years past Bay slumped and Doumit and Nate were on the bench.

Having said all of that, it's a bit of a tangent because as I have said in the past, the offense isn't what's holding this team back. Still fun to debate though. :shock:


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: 7/2/08 Pirates @ Reds
PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:23 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:52 pm
Posts: 4566
Location: Pittsburgh
bucco boy wrote:
As I watch JVB leave, I wonder if he would have been a legit MLB hitter.

And why couldn't the Pirates pull an Ankiel and at least give it a try. Seriously, what do they have to lose.

I believe I remember reading a quote from Van B in which he said that his shoulder surgery robbed him of his power at the plate.

That aside, he's a lot older than Ankiel was when he made his switch. I think it would be a waste of time. I'd rather see him moved to the bullpen. Some of the most unlikely pitchers have salvaged a career just by moving to relief.

_________________
"Enjoy every sandwich." - Warren Zevon


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: 7/2/08 Pirates @ Reds
PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:23 am 
sisyphus wrote:
bucco boy wrote:
As I watch JVB leave, I wonder if he would have been a legit MLB hitter.

And why couldn't the Pirates pull an Ankiel and at least give it a try. Seriously, what do they have to lose.

I believe I remember reading a quote from Van B in which he said that his shoulder surgery robbed him of his power at the plate.

That aside, he's a lot older than Ankiel was when he made his switch. I think it would be a waste of time. I'd rather see him moved to the bullpen. Some of the most unlikely pitchers have salvaged a career just by moving to relief.


The bullpen is his ONLY chance.


Top
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 31 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 4 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Bucfan and 6 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group  
Design By Poker Bandits