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 Post subject: Re: Comparing the Bucs and the Rays
PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:51 pm 
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Willton wrote:
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I've only seen Kazmir a couple times now. That said, he's a nice pitcher, but I don't find him any better or worse than Snell or Gorzo when they are "right".

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Even if that's true, a team does not play a pitcher like Kazmir, Snell, or Gorzo only when they are "right." A team typically plays a pitcher like that an entire year, "right" or otherwise. Kazmir's seasonal record is far better than that of Snell or Gorzo, and that's why Kazmir's value is greater.


Kazmir is a strikeout machine and he is only 24. When they are right I love Snell and Gorzo but they ain't even close to Kazmir.


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 Post subject: Re: Comparing the Bucs and the Rays
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When he is right, so is Snell.

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 Post subject: Re: Comparing the Bucs and the Rays
PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:20 pm 
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ZelieMike wrote:
When he is right, so is Snell.

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Kazmir: 2006- 163 K's in 144 IP. Gave up 132 hits with an ERA of 3.25 and a WHIP of 1.28
2007- 239 K's in 206 IP. Gave up 196 hits with an ERA of 3.49 and a WHIP of 1.38


Snell: 2006- 169 K's in 186 IP. Gave up 198 hits with an ERA of 4.74 and a WHIP of 146
2007- 177 K's in 208 IP. Gave up 209 hits with an ERA of 3.76 and a WHIP of 1.33

Kazmir also threw 196 innings in 2005 at age 21. In his 3 full seasons with Tampa he has yet to have a losing record.

Like I said when they are right I like Snell and Gorzo. And the numbers above(especially '07) from Snell are nothing to sneeze at. But comparing him to Kazmir is wrong. This kid is special and in the elite class of pitchers already. And remember up until this year he has also always pitched for a losing team. And he is 3 years younger than Snell.


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 Post subject: Re: Comparing the Bucs and the Rays
PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:25 pm 
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That's a lot of innings on a young arm.

Hopefully he doesn't pay a price for that later.


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