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 Post subject: Re: Rain rain wouldn't go away
PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:03 pm 
Willton wrote:
Blah, blah, blah, BH. The only reason that football plays in the rain is because it has to. Football's schedule is so rigid that teams are forced to play in whatever conditions the day presents. Baseball is not so rigid: teams have the luxury and flexibility to reschedule games due to bad weather. It's not about who's tough and who's not. It's about who has the flexibility and who does not.

Believe me, rain does make it dangerous for players of all sports to play their games. I'm sure football players are more likely to get injured in the rain than in dry weather. But the interests of money (CBS, ABC, FOX, etc.) and rigid scheduling always seem to win out over the health of the players, especially considering how fungible those players are.

So don't give us this nonsense about football is manly and baseball is a pansy game. At least baseball isn't played in a sterylized environment (i.e. dome) where the weather has no effect on the game.


"Rigid Schedule" ... hahaha.


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 Post subject: Re: Rain rain wouldn't go away
PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:18 pm 
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Elmer wrote:
Only lightning should delay or stop a game.
Play in the rain


I've long thought the same thing, BH. Play in the rain, but not in lightning. So long as both teams are playing in same conditions, it is fair.

Similarly, I get pissed when golfers start crying about someone being loud when they're trying to make a swing. So a baseball player has to try to hit a ball moving 95 mph and moving all over the place while people yell and scream and that's OK. BUt a golfer needs total silence to hit a ball that is sitting still?

But in both of these cases, the sports are the way they are and that won't change, so I don't let it get to me.[/quote]

[url]Golf and Tennis. I enjoy playing both...but you're right. I dont think it would bother me to have a bunch of people screaming when I'm trying to make a shot..however when my of my golf pals crack a joke just before I swing and hit the ball will screw me up.
And I said...dont play when its lightning. I live just north of Pgh and it was not lighting all night. I cant say I was watching the sky every second...too busy laughing watching George Carlin on HBO[/url]

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 Post subject: Re: Rain rain wouldn't go away
PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:31 pm 
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I've played soccer and football in high school and baseball, and baseball is totally different because of the demand of throwing the ball that gets heavy after the rain soaks into it and players swinging wooden bats with bad grips that can cause injury to spectators...

Yes the NFL has moved games because of weather...they're called hurricanes (major storms)...not because of a threat a 60% chance of rain

Football can change their game plan to go along with the weather, like running the ball more, short passes and dumps to running backs...You can't do that in baseball...


I know its pointless to argue with some of the posters on this, but I did anyway...

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 Post subject: Re: Rain rain wouldn't go away
PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:32 pm 
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I've played soccer and football in high school and baseball, and baseball is totally different because of the demand of throwing the ball that gets heavy after the rain soaks into it and players swinging wooden bats with bad grips that can cause injury to spectators...

Yes the NFL has moved games because of weather...they're called hurricanes (major storms)...not because of a threat a 60% chance of rain

Football can change their game plan to go along with the weather, like running the ball more, short passes and dumps to running backs...You can't do that in baseball...


I know its pointless to argue with some of the posters on this, but I did anyway...


Good point on the safety of the spectators. Hadn't thought of that.

I'd still like to see the game played in the rain, but it'll never happen. Each sport has its own tradition.


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 Post subject: Re: Rain rain wouldn't go away
PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:35 pm 
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Games have been played in the rain...its when its a total downpour or lightning that its stopped...I've heard many times on TV games while it was raining the announcers were surprised the game wasnt delayed!!!

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From Bob Prince -

"It's the 7th and deciding game of the 1925 World Series. Rain by the buckets full at Forbes Field. Kiki Cuyler hits one down the right field line, 2 runs score, and the Pirates go on to win 9 - 7. Oh! How sweet it was!"


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 Post subject: Re: Rain rain wouldn't go away
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nad69dan wrote:
... baseball is totally different because of the demand of throwing the ball that gets heavy after the rain soaks into it and players swinging wooden bats with bad grips that can cause injury to spectators...

Football can change their game plan to go along with the weather, like running the ball more, short passes and dumps to running backs...You can't do that in baseball....

A football gets soaked too...gets heavy..hard to throw, catch, hold on to....same for both teams. As per bats...you gotta be kidding....you could stand under a waterfall and swing a bat and you are not going to let it fly out of your hands.....most times a bat flys into the stands when it is broke or the batter is fooled by the pitch

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 Post subject: Re: Rain rain wouldn't go away
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A steady rain greatly diminishes the hitters ability to see the ball. Considering the split second it takes to react to a pitch, things could become extremely dangerous for the hitter on a 95 mph heater.


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Argentum wrote:
A steady rain greatly diminishes the hitters ability to see the ball. Considering the split second it takes to react to a pitch, things could become extremely dangerous for the hitter on a 95 mph heater.

Not true..you can see finein a steady rain....only if its a deluge will vision be impaired

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Argentum wrote:
A steady rain greatly diminishes the hitters ability to see the ball. Considering the split second it takes to react to a pitch, things could become extremely dangerous for the hitter on a 95 mph heater.

Not to mention the catcher and umpire, who despite their protective gear, can still suffer injuries to their unprotected areas from errant pitches that they can't see well.

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 Post subject: Re: Rain rain wouldn't go away
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Argentum wrote:
A steady rain greatly diminishes the hitters ability to see the ball. Considering the split second it takes to react to a pitch, things could become extremely dangerous for the hitter on a 95 mph heater.

Not true..you can see finein a steady rain....only if its a deluge will vision be impaired

And I'm sure you speak from experience when you say this. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Rain rain wouldn't go away
PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:43 pm 
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This thread is so wacked I had to comment. They already play in the rain. When the rain comes down hard or they know ahead that it will they use common sense and preserve the infield and other dirt areas to possibly facilitate a resumption in play. Playing in the mud or with standing water would reduce the game to a vaudeville sketch. As Dick Enberg would say.....Oh My!!


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 Post subject: Re: Rain rain wouldn't go away
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Az Bucco fan wrote:
This thread is so wacked I had to comment. They already play in the rain. When the rain comes down hard or they know ahead that it will they use common sense and preserve the infield and other dirt areas to possibly facilitate a resumption in play. Playing in the mud or with standing water would reduce the game to a vaudeville sketch. As Dick Enberg would say.....Oh My!!


AZ, I had a HS ump once tell me that his rule of thumb was to play until it was raining too hard that you could not turn your face upward and look directly up. When it gets to that point, high fly balls become hazardous to players (and/or spectators). And it is quite difficult to look directly up, even in a moderate rain.

As for last nights game, give me a break. I don't know where everyone else lives, but here within city limits it was pouring for much of the night (though there were breaks of 15 minutes every so often) with a lot of lightning to boot. Suggesting they should have played is, quite frankly, idiotic.


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 Post subject: Re: Rain rain wouldn't go away
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"I don't think the heavy stuff will come down for a while."


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 Post subject: Re: Rain rain wouldn't go away
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As for last nights game, give me a break. I don't know where everyone else lives, but here within city limits it was pouring for much of the night (though there were breaks of 15 minutes every so often) with a lot of lightning to boot. Suggesting they should have played is, quite frankly, idiotic.

We should expect as much from our pal BH.

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 Post subject: Re: Rain rain wouldn't go away
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He doesnt follow baseball because the owner sucks and they're a bunch of pansies cuz they wont play in the rain...BH, go find another sport to waste your time on and get lost

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 Post subject: Re: Rain rain wouldn't go away
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I agree BBF. As for Arg? LOLOL!


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 Post subject: Re: Rain rain wouldn't go away
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I've played in both light rain and in downpours. I once had a game stopped because a ball hit to me at second actually sucked in to the infield and I had to dig the ball out of the ground.

Baseball is played in a light rain all the time.

Besides, anyone who's played the game knows that baseball players are just as tough as football players. I've seen baseball players suck it up and play through injuries that would sideline any other athlete.


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 Post subject: Re: Rain rain wouldn't go away
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So why did my reply to this get deleted.I didn't say anything wrong.There was no reason what so ever to delete it.I'm about to leave this board if this keeps happening to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Rain rain wouldn't go away
PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:32 am 
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Jeremy wrote:
I've played in both light rain and in downpours. I once had a game stopped because a ball hit to me at second actually sucked in to the infield and I had to dig the ball out of the ground.

Baseball is played in a light rain all the time.

Besides, anyone who's played the game knows that baseball players are just as tough as football players. I've seen baseball players suck it up and play through injuries that would sideline any other athlete.


Baseball players as tough as football? I'm sure there are some but a small percentage. I played both.....no F--ing way in general are baseball players tougher than football. Funny thing is that I blew out my shoulder in high school as a pitcher and cant throw a ball of any kind with any velocity without it hurting.

If it is not lightning or your vision is not impaired...the games should be played. Major League stadiums are not cow pastures.....thats why grounds crews are paid to clear off standing water

Nobody wants to address the other point about erasing stats and starting over a game that does not go 4.5 innings

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