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 Post subject: Jose Bautista
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:16 pm 
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I'm starting to change my opinion on this guy, thinking maybe he can be our third baseman for the long term.

He has been making genuine contributions offensively, and of course gives you solid defense. He has improved very gradually over the last several years, and maybe is still on the upswing in his career.


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 Post subject: Re: Jose Bautista
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:34 pm 
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i'm not set on him yet but he has been playing some great ball recently.....we'll see over the next couple weeks what he does


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 Post subject: Re: Jose Bautista
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:59 pm 
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Nate2233 wrote:
i'm not set on him yet but he has been playing some great ball recently.....we'll see over the next couple weeks what he does


I'd like to see him NOT play winter ball this offseason and to rest himself.

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 Post subject: Re: Jose Bautista
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:07 pm 
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My biggest fear is that he becomes a Jose Castillo...has enough of these runs to show us how much potential he has, but never puts it all together enough to be a reliable contributor.

Of course, he doesn't seem to be the head case that Castillo seemed to be, so he has that going for him.

But if he ends up with another line of .275/15-20 homers, what do you do with him? Assume he still has room to improve and keep him at 3rd, make him a super-sub, or trade him and let some other team figure it out?


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 Post subject: Re: Jose Bautista
PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:32 am 
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BBF wrote:
My biggest fear is that he becomes a Jose Castillo...has enough of these runs to show us how much potential he has, but never puts it all together enough to be a reliable contributor.

Of course, he doesn't seem to be the head case that Castillo seemed to be, so he has that going for him.

But if he ends up with another line of .275/15-20 homers, what do you do with him? Assume he still has room to improve and keep him at 3rd, make him a super-sub, or trade him and let some other team figure it out?



If he keeps it going, it gives management an excuse not to push Walker and maybe give him some more time at AAA...if Walker is ready, Jose might not be a bad OFer if Bay and Nady are traded...

I just wish Littlefield wouldn't have screwed everything up by letting him go in the Rule 5, and then lose Keppinger to get him back...


And I agree with you No. 9, no more winterball...

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 Post subject: Re: Jose Bautista
PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:44 am 
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BBF wrote:
But if he ends up with another line of .275/15-20 homers, what do you do with him?


That's easy. Let him compete for the job against other candidates. Or perhaps trade Sanchez (assuming he's indeed tadable) and then slide him over to 2b? He definitely has more value as a middle infielder and the Pirates aren't exactly brimming with minor league talent.


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 Post subject: Re: Jose Bautista
PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:24 am 
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As a third baseman he is not the future. He has really improved his play offensively since he was benched in May. Maybe it's effort with him. If he can continue to show this new found performance isn't a streak, then maybe hs can fill the 3rd sack need.

It will take a lot longer then a couple weeks for that to be true.

Sanchez has some history and needs to be trusted with long term success. I would not replace Freddy with 'Joey Bats'.

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 Post subject: Re: Jose Bautista
PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:47 am 
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Substitute2 wrote:
Sanchez has some history and needs to be trusted with long term success. I would not replace Freddy with 'Joey Bats'.


"Joey Bats"! Just as annoying in type as it is coming from Greg Brown's yap!

But in all seriousness, I was more or less trying to think outside of the box and wouldn't be the least bit surprised if NH shares your opinion on Bautista at 2b. That being said, Sanchez's 2006 is starting to look like an anomaly, he's no spring chicken. That may be another position that needs to be addressed in the short term.


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 Post subject: Re: Jose Bautista
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The Joey Bats thing was for you as I recall a previous comment about how much you liked it.

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 Post subject: Re: Jose Bautista
PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:31 pm 
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I hate that nickname. It turns my stomach.

For now I keep running Jose out to third, giving Minky some starts there too. He may eventually become a super sub, but I'm not giving up on him being a regular. Maybe he does slide over to second or the outfield, depending on how the pieces fall.

Bautista is a better athlete than Castillo, and has more power. I wouldn't be shocked if he becomes a 30 homer guy.


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 Post subject: Re: Jose Bautista
PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:12 pm 
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Substitute2 wrote:
The Joey Bats thing was for you as I recall a previous comment about how much you liked it.


Gee, thanks............I think. :)


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