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 Post subject: XMan should be ok
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:10 pm 
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The MRI done X's shoulder showed no damage, just a joint sprain.

http://pittsburgh.pirates.mlb.com/news/ ... p&c_id=pit

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:16 pm 
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Thanks Bassoon-man. I really like Nady and am glad he'll be returnung to play soon.

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good. don't want to damage the goods before they get to the trade market.

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 Post subject: Re: XMan should be ok
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:49 pm 
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bassoondirector wrote:
The MRI done X's shoulder showed no damage, just a joint sprain.

http://pittsburgh.pirates.mlb.com/news/ ... p&c_id=pit


I wouldn't call it "just a joint sprain". I'm no orthopedist, but this is a tricky injury. I would not rule out a trip to the DL. A lot will depend on what the ligaments do between now and when he is reevaluated.


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BBF wrote:
I wouldn't call it "just a joint sprain". I'm no orthopedist, but this is a tricky injury. I would not rule out a trip to the DL. A lot will depend on what the ligaments do between now and when he is reevaluated.


Sorry Mr. BBF. I guess I made another mistake according to you for saying "just a joint sprain." I guess I'm wrong again according to you.

The article seemed encouraging so that's how I interpreted it.

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 Post subject: Re: XMan should be ok
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bassoondirector wrote:
BBF wrote:
I wouldn't call it "just a joint sprain". I'm no orthopedist, but this is a tricky injury. I would not rule out a trip to the DL. A lot will depend on what the ligaments do between now and when he is reevaluated.


Sorry Mr. BBF. I guess I made another mistake according to you for saying "just a joint sprain." I guess I'm wrong again according to you.

The article seemed encouraging so that's how I interpreted it.


Jesus F'in Christ. Remind me again where it is written that I am not to disagree with you. OR...perhaps I was disagreeing with what the article said????

I'll be sure to alert my colleagues that the Pirates website is a more relevant source for medical knowledge than any of the sources we currently use.

And I'll also be sure to offer an 'atta boy after everything you post from here on out. Nothing but sunshine and flowers around here, fellers. Don't want to hurt any feelings anymore.


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BBF wrote:
Jesus F'in Christ. Remind me again where it is written that I am not to disagree with you. OR...perhaps I was disagreeing with what the article said????

I'll be sure to alert my colleagues that the Pirates website is a more relevant source for medical knowledge than any of the sources we currently use.

And I'll also be sure to offer an 'atta boy after everything you post from here on out. Nothing but sunshine and flowers around here, fellers. Don't want to hurt any feelings anymore.


You won't have to anymore Mr. BBF because I'm done posting here.

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BBF, my best friend died in a freak sunshine and flower accident. You have offended me beyond my limit and I will never post here again!!! :twisted:


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Wow...just wow. Time to stick a fork in this board, I believe it is done.


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 Post subject: Re: XMan should be ok
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Uhh. Back to the topic at hand. It sounds like Nady still might require a brief stint on the DL. If he does, who comes up? Morgan? Thompson? Or might we see a drink of water at the show for McCutcheon or Pearce?


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DK says if Morgan, and rather definatively.

I don't believe we such McCutch until after the July arb clock starts.

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I would bring McCutcheon up now. We've seen what Nyjmo can do, and it ain't much.


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Ralphie wrote:
I would bring McCutcheon up now. We've seen what Nyjmo can do, and it ain't much.

Bringing up McCutcheon now means he becomes a free agent one year sooner. He would be my last choice for a guy to promote right now.

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sisyphus wrote:
Ralphie wrote:
I would bring McCutcheon up now. We've seen what Nyjmo can do, and it ain't much.

Bringing up McCutcheon now means he becomes a free agent one year sooner. He would be my last choice for a guy to promote right now.

I don't think this is true. It may make it so that he could file for arbitration a year sooner but not if you just brought him up to get his feet wet with the intent of sending him back down. My understanding of the rules are as follows:

1. Service time = days in the majors except that if a player is in the minors for 20 days or less of the season, they get credit for the whole year.
2. If they are in the top 17% of the 2+ year players in service time, they can file for arbitration a year earlier but this does not make them eligible for free agency any sooner.

#1 is not an issue. #2 could be but only if he sticks with the big club and would only affect arbitration not free agency.

I say bring him up and see what happens!

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I'd rather see Thompson than Morgan, I think.

I'm indifferent on the McCutchen issue...yeah, you might start his arbitration clock early, but then again, NH seems to be of the mindset to lock those worth keeping up before they even reach arbitration. I think the impact would be minimal. Ideally, though, you don't want to bring him up until you are ready to give him the job full time, and are sure he can handle it. Bringing him up only to send him back down in 2 weeks when Nady is healthy is far from ideal.


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burghermeister wrote:
sisyphus wrote:
Ralphie wrote:
I would bring McCutcheon up now. We've seen what Nyjmo can do, and it ain't much.

Bringing up McCutcheon now means he becomes a free agent one year sooner. He would be my last choice for a guy to promote right now.

I don't think this is true. It may make it so that he could file for arbitration a year sooner but not if you just brought him up to get his feet wet with the intent of sending him back down. My understanding of the rules are as follows:

1. Service time = days in the majors except that if a player is in the minors for 20 days or less of the season, they get credit for the whole year.
2. If they are in the top 17% of the 2+ year players in service time, they can file for arbitration a year earlier but this does not make them eligible for free agency any sooner.

#1 is not an issue. #2 could be but only if he sticks with the big club and would only affect arbitration not free agency.

I say bring him up and see what happens!

BM

#2 is the issue because the Pirates are almost certain to deal Bay, Nady or both before the end of July, and McCutcheon is the most likely callup to replace either. Adding another 15 or so days to his service time could put him the super two category. Call up Morgan. It's not like it's going to cost us the division.

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