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 Post subject: A Brad Eldred sighting
PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:01 pm 
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The big fella had quite a night Saturday. Playing for AAA Charlotte of the International League, he had HRs in each game of a doubleheader against Richmond. The second was a grand slam and his 24th of the season, which leads the league. But the first apparently was the longest ever hit in Richmond. It cleared the 25-foot-high batter's eye atop the CF wall, which is 402 feet from home plate, and landed outside the stadium. The center fielder took two steps, then stopped and just watched it go, according to the Richmond Times-Dispatch.

Eldred also leads the IL in RBI, with 67. But he K's once every 3.3 at-bats. So . . . nothing new there.

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 Post subject: Re: A Brad Eldred sighting
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Bob in Boston wrote:
The big fella had quite a night Saturday. Playing for AAA Charlotte of the International League, he had HRs in each game of a doubleheader against Richmond. The second was a grand slam and his 24th of the season, which leads the league. But the first apparently was the longest ever hit in Richmond. It cleared the 25-foot-high batter's eye atop the CF wall, which is 402 feet from home plate, and landed outside the stadium. The center fielder took two steps, then stopped and just watched it go, according to the Richmond Times-Dispatch.

Eldred also leads the IL in RBI, with 67. But he K's once every 3.3 at-bats. So . . . nothing new there.

If Eldred could draw walks he'd be Gorman Thomas, but with no discipline and tons of K's he'll never get or deserve a real shot. That being said, it would be fun to watch him get a full season of at bats. I'd guess he'd bat about .215 with forty homers and over (maybe WAY over) 200 strikeouts.

On the other hand, he wouldn't bounce into too many DPs :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: A Brad Eldred sighting
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OK then, so who here would rather have the 40 HR/.200 guy over La Roche? I personally never wanted to ditch the guy (which probably shows what an ignorant baseball fan I am.) Dave Kingman, Roger Freed, Gorman Thomas, Adam Dunn.. did any of them play on championship teams? Eldred would hit some three run homers at nice times but the strikeouts are hard to deal with.


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 Post subject: Re: A Brad Eldred sighting
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I wish they would have kept him as well, but I think it's also pretty telling that he's still in AAA.

Some guys are just going to be Crash Davis. There's nothing wrong with that, but it makes you wonder what could happen if he got some really good coach to teach him plate discipline.


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 Post subject: Re: A Brad Eldred sighting
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:34 am 
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If he was capable of being taught plate discipline, he wouldn't still be in AAA. He is a poor hitter with awesome raw power. Always was and always will be.


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 Post subject: Re: A Brad Eldred sighting
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Ollie wrote:
OK then, so who here would rather have the 40 HR/.200 guy over La Roche? I personally never wanted to ditch the guy (which probably shows what an ignorant baseball fan I am.) Dave Kingman, Roger Freed, Gorman Thomas, Adam Dunn.. did any of them play on championship teams? Eldred would hit some three run homers at nice times but the strikeouts are hard to deal with.

Dunn is better than Thomas or Kingman, and Freed doesn't even belong in the conversation.

Thomas and Dunn are similar in that both hit for low averages with tons of walks and homers. Dunn is better as a hitter, but a liability in the field, while Thomas had a strong arm and played a passable center field.

Kingman was Dunn without the walks, with a bad attitude thrown in. He was an effective hitter for a lot longer than Thomas, though.

Freed struck out nearly as much as the others, but never had their power, so he was never a regular in the majors.

Any fan who hates LaRoche would go absolutely ballistic watching Eldred play every day.

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 Post subject: Re: A Brad Eldred sighting
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I think Rob Deer should be included in this conversation.


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 Post subject: Re: A Brad Eldred sighting
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Kevin the Bucco wrote:
I think Rob Deer should be included in this conversation.

Oh yes. And Mickey Tettleton. Maybe Gene Tenace as well.

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 Post subject: Re: A Brad Eldred sighting
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Nah, Tenace played way too much defense for this group.

Gorman Thomas is as close to defense as this group gets!

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 Post subject: Re: A Brad Eldred sighting
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ZelieMike wrote:
Nah, Tenace played way too much defense for this group.

Gorman Thomas is as close to defense as this group gets!

ZM

You might be right about that. Probably the best hitter of this crew as well.

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 Post subject: Re: A Brad Eldred sighting
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Lets not forget Cecil Fielder too!!!

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 Post subject: Re: A Brad Eldred sighting
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In Eldred's defense, he was limited to 18 games in '06, his age 25 season. Then last year the previous regime had the brilliant idea of making him a rightfielder, beginning at the major league level. That's 2 prime years of hitting development lost.

While it's good to see him having some success, I note he is apparently at the AA level for the ChiSox.

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/ ... dred.shtml


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 Post subject: Re: A Brad Eldred sighting
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Scurvycure wrote:
While it's good to see him having some success, I note he is apparently at the AA level for the ChiSox.

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/ ... dred.shtml


SC, the Baseball Cube has it wrong. Charlotte is in the South Division of the AAA International League. In fact, it will play 4 in Indianapolis (West Division) in July and 4 vs. Indianapolis at Charlotte in August.

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 Post subject: Re: A Brad Eldred sighting
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Scurvycure wrote:
In Eldred's defense, he was limited to 18 games in '06, his age 25 season. Then last year the previous regime had the brilliant idea of making him a rightfielder, beginning at the major league level. That's 2 prime years of hitting development lost.

While it's good to see him having some success, I note he is apparently at the AA level for the ChiSox.

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/ ... dred.shtml

There's no question that his injury in 2006 was a serious problem, but he didn't lose a year of development last year. He played 86 games at Indy, where he flat sucked. The idea of putting him in right field wasn't a bad one. He looked passable out there. I see that he's played 12 games in right this year.

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 Post subject: Re: A Brad Eldred sighting
PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:35 am 
i saw him launch a homer in a minor league game a couple weeks back. the dude still has power.


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 Post subject: Re: A Brad Eldred sighting
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I shall invoke the name: Ken Phelps.

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 Post subject: Re: A Brad Eldred sighting
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Or Steve Balboni.


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