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 Post subject: Re: Pirates v. Orioles -- 6/13/08
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:36 pm 
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Oliver Perez pitched very well tonight.. 7 innings, one earned run on three hits, 3bb, 8 K.


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates v. Orioles -- 6/13/08
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:39 pm 
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Scurvycure wrote:
I don't know that I'd give up on Burnett. I wonder if he just needs to be used more regularly?


Welcome to the board, sorry you had to join under these turn of events

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates v. Orioles -- 6/13/08
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:42 pm 
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Good point. Maybe I'm causing the bad fortune :o


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates v. Orioles -- 6/13/08
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Scurvycure wrote:
Good point. Maybe I'm causing the bad fortune :o


No, the bad fortune was laid out by Cam Bonify and Dave Littlefield

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates v. Orioles -- 6/13/08
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On a lighter note, is anyone else disappointed the Pirates are not wearing throwbacks? I was hoping to see all yellows against all oranges. Weren't those '79 uniform options for both teams?


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates v. Orioles -- 6/13/08
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The announcers were saying in the pregame that they didn't offer the Pirates the opportunity to wear them.


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates v. Orioles -- 6/13/08
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:58 pm 
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Assuming they lose tonight, this will be the fifth -- the FIFTH -- time they've had an opportunity to get to .500 and choked.

Sigh.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates v. Orioles -- 6/13/08
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Our beloved Buccos are choking like dogs with chicken bones stuck in their throats...........

Call 911!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates v. Orioles -- 6/13/08
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OK, I've had enough. They can continue to wet the bed without my torturing myself anymore over it.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates v. Orioles -- 6/13/08
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No baserunners after the 4th inning. That stunk!


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates v. Orioles -- 6/13/08
PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:55 am 
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When I fell asleep, we were leading 6-1.
To wake up, and discover that we had lost 9-6 is a real shock.
One naturally wants to blame someone, but it would seem that every aspect is to blame. This sort of loss has to be laid attributed to bad team leadership. Step forward John Russell.
I guess he thought, "Well, this one's in the bag. I'll keep my better relievers for the next game when they might be needed."; and said to the batters," This one's fun, go out and enjoy yourselves; the pitching's lousy just keep hacking away."
Or is there some malign power precluding Pirate fans from ever enjoying the briefest moment of contentment as they crave 'the Holy Grail' that is a WINNING RECORD?
Is it really so much to ask for?!

(I think I may have banged my head against the wall too many times. Those white figures coming toward me - are they angels of mercy or men in white coats? Time to lie down again.)

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates v. Orioles -- 6/13/08
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Sanchez: No Hits
McLouth: No Hits
Doumit: No Hits
Bautista: No Hits

That all equals: No Good!

1.) JR must get Mr. Not Steady Freddy out of the leadoff spot
2.) Bautista needs to sit
3.) Make Doumit the DH


I would leadoff with Bay, put Rivas in for Freddy, Mientkiewicz at 1B.

Bay LF
Jack SS
McLouth CF
Doumit DH
Michaels RF
Mientkiewicz 1B
Rivas 2B
Gomez 3B
Chavez C

Rest Sanchez and Nady and keep LaRoche and Bautista on the Bench.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates v. Orioles -- 6/13/08
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It would be interesting to see what that batting order would do for a week, bassoon. I doubt any manager would consider having his only two left handed hitters bat back-to-back though.

I could imagine Jason Bay hitting seven homers in seven games again if he batted in the leadoff spot.

I would only consider benching Freddy for Rivas for a couple of games.


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates v. Orioles -- 6/13/08
PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:03 am 
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See, you guys got it all wrong. Save yourself the aggravation. I quit watching after the 5th, allowed my wife to put on the Lifetime channel, and felt my blood pressure reduce to the point where the veins in my neck were no longer visible! After the movie, I jumped down to FSN to hear Rob King say we lost 9-6, then went to bed in a very peaceful state of mind. After 15 years of this sort of thing, there has to be some sort of physiological disorder attributable to Pirates fans. I know I have it. Some scientist is missing out on an opportunity to make a name for him or herself.

As for the game, is there a reason why JR would forgo Grabow for Burnett? This was an important game (well at least for a Pirates fan) and I'd think you'd want to give yourself the best chance to win. What's even more baffling is that Grabow hasn't pitched since 6/10. I would have let him go two innings.

6 Runs against the O's should be plenty enough to win.


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates v. Orioles -- 6/13/08
PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:23 am 
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I left to take a quick dip, walk the dog and then take another quick dip. It went from 6-1 to 6-6 just as I checked in. These two teams are eerily similar. I watched a couple of their recent games just to see what the team was like and found many things that reminded me of the Bucs.


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates v. Orioles -- 6/13/08
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bassoondirector wrote:
3.) Make Doumit the DH

I would leadoff with Bay, put Rivas in for Freddy, Mientkiewicz at 1B.

Rest Sanchez and Nady and keep LaRoche and Bautista on the Bench.


I agree with giving Gomez a start at 3rd, however, you are sacrificing a lot of offense with sitting Nady and putting Doumit in the DH and starting Chavez behind the plate. I know Nady will not be the DH every night, but I don't mind see him that way in these line-ups, especially considering the play of Michaels last night -- both offensively and defensively. Made a very nice catch and had a very good read on a single afterwards that might have otherwise cost a run.


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates v. Orioles -- 6/13/08
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The reason I want Chavez in there is because I think he handles the pitchers better and we need that against these AL teams. Use Doumit as the DH to keep his bat in the game. Nady and Michaels can split time in RF to rest Nady when he needs it. Bautista, as far as I'm concerned looks terrible at the plate. He needs to sit on the Bench. That's why I would play Gomez at 3B. Sanchez needs to sit too. That's why I would have Rivas start at 2B. Mientkiewicz starts at 1B because LaRoche can't hit a baseball.

I don't think we would lose any offensive production having Gomez, Rivas, and Mientkiewicz in the lineup considering the lack of offense by Sanchez, LaRoche, and Bautista when they are playing. Actually, I think Rivas, Mientkiewicz, and Gomez can provide more offense than the other three right now anyways.

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