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 Post subject: Strasburg signs for $15 million
PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:27 am 
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On the front page of ESPN and SI.com.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/b ... ef=BrkNews

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 Post subject: Re: Strasburg signs for $15 million
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Seattle also signed the No. 2 pick Ackley for $9.5 million. Ties him with Teixiera for the highest bonus for a position player.

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 Post subject: Re: Strasburg signs for $15 million
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bucco boy wrote:
Seattle also signed the No. 2 pick Ackley for $9.5 million. Ties him with Teixiera for the highest bonus for a position player.


Wrong info initially. It was only $7.5 million.

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 Post subject: Re: Strasburg signs for $15 million
PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:17 am 
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I hate Boras...


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 Post subject: Re: Strasburg signs for $15 million
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But if you were a hot shot amatuer prospect, you would hire him to be your agent.


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 Post subject: Re: Strasburg signs for $15 million
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Now we get to see what the kid's made of. I hope for his sake that he's as good as advertised.


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 Post subject: Re: Strasburg signs for $15 million
PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:19 am 
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He'll probably blow out his arm before he even pitches in the majors, and the National's will have spent all of that money for nothing.


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 Post subject: Re: Strasburg signs for $15 million
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Nutting&Russell wrote:
He'll probably blow out his arm before he even pitches in the majors, and the National's will have spent all of that money for nothing.


One of his selling points was that he'd be rotation ready right off the bat.


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 Post subject: Re: Strasburg signs for $15 million
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The interesting - rather, frustrating - thing is that the Nats apparently offered Strasbourg that amount of money weeks ago. Boras waits until the deadline as a matter of principal. He has made it clear that he detests the deadline as he feels it infringes on his negotiations and reduces the money he can get for his clients, so he will not sign until very, very late, particularly for top-5 picks.


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 Post subject: Re: Strasburg signs for $15 million
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Jeremy wrote:
Nutting&Russell wrote:
He'll probably blow out his arm before he even pitches in the majors, and the National's will have spent all of that money for nothing.


One of his selling points was that he'd be rotation ready right off the bat.


There was some talk this morning that he would be in Washington this season. Could he be in condition to pitch in a couple weeks? Would it be wise to risk this investment before at least looking at him in some detail in the spring?

There are questions about so much money being committed with a pitcher. We know first hand how easy it is for them to blow out their arm and be either useless or much less valuable.

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 Post subject: Re: Strasburg signs for $15 million
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Substitute2 wrote:
Jeremy wrote:
Nutting&Russell wrote:
He'll probably blow out his arm before he even pitches in the majors, and the National's will have spent all of that money for nothing.


One of his selling points was that he'd be rotation ready right off the bat.


There was some talk this morning that he would be in Washington this season. Could he be in condition to pitch in a couple weeks? Would it be wise to risk this investment before at least looking at him in some detail in the spring?

There are questions about so much money being committed with a pitcher. We know first hand how easy it is for them to blow out their arm and be either useless or much less valuable.


If he's been working out and throwing at home, I see no reason why he can't make a couple of starts in AA or AAA and make his Washington debut this year. I think the Nats almost have to have him pitch in DC this year to show that they're serious about making the team better.


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 Post subject: Re: Strasburg signs for $15 million
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If they bring him to the majors, it would be a crime.

1. What has he done to earn a spot on a major league roster? Had he signed earlier, he might have made a few starts at A, AA, and AAA giving him the opportunity to come up in September. Boras doesn't care about that kind of stuff. Otherwise, Alvarez would be in AAA right now possibly preparing himself for a September callup. Its his own dumb fault he is still stuck in AA.

2. What happens to him if he comes and gets rocked? His confidence would take a major hit, so will the Nats front office.


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 Post subject: Re: Strasburg signs for $15 million
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Personally I would not rush him. That's too big of an investment to just throw him into the rotation.

I would send him to the instructional league to assess where he is, then give him at least a few of minor league starts. It's not like Washington is contending this year.


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 Post subject: Re: Strasburg signs for $15 million
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Nationals are now a better team then the Pirates !!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Strasburg signs for $15 million
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Ralphie wrote:
But if you were a hot shot amatuer prospect, you would hire him to be your agent.

I wouldn't, because with Boras you have to be willing to move free agency back a year or more, and I wouldn't be willing to do that.

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 Post subject: Re: Strasburg signs for $15 million
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The market sets the value for player salaries. In terms of criticism that the market is defective or wages are too low, all one need to do is ask the following:

Could these positions be filled by qualified candidates, at the current wage? The simple answer to the question is "yes."

Understandably, players want to earn, on average, more than $2.93 million. (See, http://tinyurl.com/5qzgqs.) However, you could find dozens - hundreds - of talented players willing to play for much less than that.

The market, if left to its own devices, would drive salaries down. It would do so in the following fashion:

Teams flush with revenue drive up player salaries. Teams with less revenue refuse to match those salaries and lose players, eventually. Teams with less revenue are therefore driven out of business (just as happens with supermarkets, car dealers, etc.). Teams with more revenues then become monopolies or oligopolies. Those teams have captured the demand, and then drive player salaries into the abyss.

The monopolies continue to field the best teams, and charge ticket prices and television fees commensurate with the quality of the team put on the field, but keep the revenue. That is the history of monopolies and, to a lesser extent, oligopolies (limited number of competitors acting in concert).

In point of fact, the only thing maintaining high player salaries is the mid and low revenue teams, which prevent the market leaders (NYY, Mets, Red Sux, Cubs, Dodgers) from driving competitors out of the market, capturing the market, and then slashing player salaries.


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