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 Post subject: PGs Top 30
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:53 pm 
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Baseball America's lists will not come out until January, but here is the Post-Gazette's current top 30, as compiled with significant input from four of the top people in baseball operations:

1. Pedro Alvarez, 3B, Altoona
2. Jose Tabata, CF, Indianapolis
3. Tim Alderson, RHP, Altoona
4. Brad Lincoln, RHP, Indianapolis
5. Gorkys Hernandez, CF, Altoona
6. Tony Sanchez, C, West Virginia
7. Starling Marte, CF, West Virginia
8. Robbie Grossman, LF, West Virginia
9. Bryan Morris, RHP, Lynchburg
10. Jeff Locke, LHP, Lynchburg
11. Chase D'Arnaud, SS, Lynchburg
12. Victor Black, RHP, State College
13. Daniel McCutchen, RHP, Indianapolis
14. Rudy Owens, LHP, Lynchburg
15. Neil Walker, 3B, Indianapolis
16. Brooks Pounders, RHP, Bradenton
17. Trent Stevenson, RHP, Bradenton
18. Argenis Diaz, SS, Indianapolis
19. Quincy Latimore, LF, West Virginia
20. Evan Chambers, CF, State College
21. Danny Moskos, LHP, Altoona
22. Jarek Cunningham, 3B, State College
23. Jordy Mercer, SS, Lynchburg
24. Quinton Miller, RHP, West Virginia
25. Shelby Ford, 2B, Altoona
26. Josh Harrison, 2B, Lynchburg
27. Nathan Adcock, LHP, Lynchburg
28. Diego Moreno, RHP, West Virginia
29. Eric Hacker, RHP, Indianapolis
30. Rogelio Noris, LF, Bradenton

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09221/989653-63.stm

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 Post subject: Re: PGs Top 30
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:18 pm 
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What stands out to me is how many of the guys who were in our top 10 have dropped so far because of the added depth of QUALITY (not just quantity) prospects.


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 Post subject: Re: PGs Top 30
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:18 pm 
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Charlie at Bucs Dugout also has his top 30 rankings up, which is a bit different from DK's. Interesting comparison.


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 Post subject: Re: PGs Top 30
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19 or 20 drafted by the Buc's with the rest in trades.

Only a couple from prior management's draft. huh. go figure.


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 Post subject: Re: PGs Top 30
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:07 am 
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It's an interesting list, very deep with decent prospects.

One interesting note I think. On Rocco's show Jim Calis from BA said "I have not spolen to one scout that believes Tabata is 20". If he is 22 and not 20 what does that mean? If anything.

I'm not sure it matters much if it's only 1-2 years, because AAA is still a good level for 22.

Any thoughts?

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 Post subject: Re: PGs Top 30
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How is Rudy Owens at 14? Behind guys like Morris and Locke?

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 Post subject: Re: PGs Top 30
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omgardd wrote:
How is Rudy Owens at 14? Behind guys like Morris and Locke?


In my mind alot of it is off. Locke is better than Morris, Victor Black is below all of the 3 you mentioned ahead, and i think Rudy Owens is the best out of the 4 named.


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 Post subject: Re: PGs Top 30
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Below i have bolded the players that i think will make it and succeed at the major league level. I would like to know what some others think also.

1. Pedro Alvarez, 3B, Altoona
2. Jose Tabata, CF, Indianapolis
3. Tim Alderson, RHP, Altoona
4. Brad Lincoln, RHP, Indianapolis
5. Gorkys Hernandez, CF, Altoona
6. Tony Sanchez, C, West Virginia
7. Starling Marte, CF, West Virginia
8. Robbie Grossman, LF, West Virginia
9. Bryan Morris, RHP, Lynchburg
10. Jeff Locke, LHP, Lynchburg
11. Chase D'Arnaud, SS, Lynchburg
12. Victor Black, RHP, State College
13. Daniel McCutchen, RHP, Indianapolis
14. Rudy Owens, LHP, Lynchburg
15. Neil Walker, 3B, Indianapolis
16. Brooks Pounders, RHP, Bradenton
17. Trent Stevenson, RHP, Bradenton
18. Argenis Diaz, SS, Indianapolis
19. Quincy Latimore, LF, West Virginia
20. Evan Chambers, CF, State College
21. Danny Moskos, LHP, Altoona
22. Jarek Cunningham, 3B, State College
23. Jordy Mercer, SS, Lynchburg
24. Quinton Miller, RHP, West Virginia
25. Shelby Ford, 2B, Altoona
26. Josh Harrison, 2B, Lynchburg
27. Nathan Adcock, LHP, Lynchburg
28. Diego Moreno, RHP, West Virginia
29. Eric Hacker, RHP, Indianapolis
30. Rogelio Noris, LF, Bradenton


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 Post subject: Re: PGs Top 30
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:00 am 
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Colin21 wrote:
Below i have bolded the players that i think will make it and succeed at the major league level. I would like to know what some others think also.

1. Pedro Alvarez, 3B, Altoona
2. Jose Tabata, CF, Indianapolis
3. Tim Alderson, RHP, Altoona
4. Brad Lincoln, RHP, Indianapolis
5. Gorkys Hernandez, CF, Altoona
6. Tony Sanchez, C, West Virginia
7. Starling Marte, CF, West Virginia
8. Robbie Grossman, LF, West Virginia
9. Bryan Morris, RHP, Lynchburg
10. Jeff Locke, LHP, Lynchburg
11. Chase D'Arnaud, SS, Lynchburg
12. Victor Black, RHP, State College
13. Daniel McCutchen, RHP, Indianapolis
14. Rudy Owens, LHP, Lynchburg
15. Neil Walker, 3B, Indianapolis
16. Brooks Pounders, RHP, Bradenton
17. Trent Stevenson, RHP, Bradenton
18. Argenis Diaz, SS, Indianapolis
19. Quincy Latimore, LF, West Virginia
20. Evan Chambers, CF, State College
21. Danny Moskos, LHP, Altoona
22. Jarek Cunningham, 3B, State College
23. Jordy Mercer, SS, Lynchburg
24. Quinton Miller, RHP, West Virginia
25. Shelby Ford, 2B, Altoona
26. Josh Harrison, 2B, Lynchburg
27. Nathan Adcock, LHP, Lynchburg
28. Diego Moreno, RHP, West Virginia
29. Eric Hacker, RHP, Indianapolis
30. Rogelio Noris, LF, Bradenton


I agree with the most of your picks.

What interests me is how Sanchez is 6th, Locke 10th and Diaz 18th. Guess I figured Sanchez and Locke to be higher. And Diaz, well, just interesting that the return we got on LaRoche is all; I was wondering how Diaz figured into Burgh's future and it would appear not so highly.

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 Post subject: Re: PGs Top 30
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Just curious as to why you don't think Brad Lincoln will make it. I also would've bolded Victor Black and Starling Marte much sooner than I would've someone like Eric Hacker.

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 Post subject: Re: PGs Top 30
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Rudy Owens is listed as a LHP. Is that right? I wonder if the list was made before Bryan Morris's implosion.


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 Post subject: Re: PGs Top 30
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Yes he is a southpaw.


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 Post subject: Re: PGs Top 30
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omgardd wrote:
Just curious as to why you don't think Brad Lincoln will make it. I also would've bolded Victor Black and Starling Marte much sooner than I would've someone like Eric Hacker.


Brad Lincoln begun to worry me alot and i think he is overrated in the ratings. I could see him being Snell like, good in the minors and not much in the majors. Also I think Eric Hacker will make it, but he has a better chance as a reliever. He was probably the last one i put on the bold list.


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 Post subject: Re: PGs Top 30
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Colin21 wrote:
Brad Lincoln worry me alot and i think he is overrated in the ratings.

Lincoln throws 93-94 mph, with plus control, and a filthy curve. He has had some bad starts at Indy.

Big deal. Pitchers have bad starts. It is the nature of the business.


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