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 Post subject: Re: Pearce moving back to 1B again
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:09 am 
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bassoondirector wrote:
I would play Mientkiewicz more at 1B until Pearce can make it up to the Pirates.


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 Post subject: Re: Pearce moving back to 1B again
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 Post subject: Re: Pearce moving back to 1B again
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bassoondirector wrote:
http://pittsburgh.pirates.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080603&content_id=2830757&vkey=news_pit&fext=.jsp&c_id=pit

There are, in my humble opinion, two big dead weights on this Pirate team. They are LaRoche and Paulino. The sooner they are gone or moved to a secondary role the better for me.

I wouldn't have any problem if Paulino is shipped out, LaRoche is moved to the Bench and Pearce is brought up to play 1B. I would play Mientkiewicz more at 1B until Pearce can make it up to the Pirates.

Minky this year: .327 OBA, .304 slugging
LaRoche this year: .290 OBA, .357 slugging

Minky career: .358 OBA, .404 slugging
LaRoche career: .335 OBA, .477 slugging

Oh yes, by all means, lets have more at bats from the inferior hitter.

I'm all for bringing up Pearce once he shows that he can hit AAA pitching this year. His .741 OPS tells me that he can't. I don't think he's blown his prospect status, but he is in an extended slump. His numbers were up in May, so maybe he's coming out of it. I expect to see him in a Pirate uniform before the end of July, but there is no reason to start his arbitration clock until you've cleared a spot on the roster for him through a trade.

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 Post subject: Re: Pearce moving back to 1B again
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:57 am 
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bassoondirector wrote:
Freddy has 14 more hits than LaRoche. Other than that, Freddy has been stinking up the joint almost just as bad.

LaRoche
Sanchez
Paulino
Bautista
Snell
Gorzelanny

These are the guys who are most responsible for the Pirates being under .500

We may disagree as to the degree of stinkitude for some individuals, but that's accurate enough for me.

Take note that Bautista's bad numbers were in April. His OPS in May was .883, and so far in June it's .955. It looks to me like Bautista would make a fine platoon and utility guy, as he hits lefties well. Too bad they don't have a righty masher who plays third.

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 Post subject: Re: Pearce moving back to 1B again
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Snell and Gorzo need to head up that list of yours. Try to keep in mind that we have scored plenty to be winning more games. A great batter makes outs 6 or seven times out of ten.

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 Post subject: Re: Pearce moving back to 1B again
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:54 am 
I am thrilled to see Pearce at first. I also don't see LaRoche as our 1B of the future. The "slow starter" thing is just an excuse; he's not that good.

I am also thrilled he did play in the OF. Knowing Pearce can play in the OF or at 1B gives the team options. That is such an underrated thing.


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 Post subject: Re: Pearce moving back to 1B again
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:56 am 
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Why trade Paulino? The Pirates wouldn't get a thing in return and he is a fantastic backup catcher.


"Fantastic" backup catcher? I couldn't disagree more. By all accounts, he's lazy. That strikes me as the kind of guy who mopes when he's not playing.

Also, if he's such a fantastic backup catcher, why is this Chavez kid getting more starts than him?

Paulino is dead weight. Get rid of him.


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 Post subject: Re: Pearce moving back to 1B again
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The Pirates are scoring 4.9 runs per game, which is pretty good, but allowing 5.4, which is terrible.

Clearly the focus has to be on pitching and defense right now, hence the decision to play Chavez over Paulino. I expect Paulino to be sent down. He's an adequate backup but that's about it.

I agree that LaRoche is not the firstbaseman of the future, but now is not the time to bench him in favor of Pearce. He will start hitting eventually. He always does. And Pearce has not yet earned a promotion.

I have my doubts about Pearce being the first baseman of the future as well, but we have to see how this plays out. Maybe Bay or Nady, or Grabow or Marte, brings some more options come July.


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 Post subject: Re: Pearce moving back to 1B again
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Ralphie wrote:
The Pirates are scoring 4.9 runs per game, which is pretty good, but allowing 5.4, which is terrible.

Clearly the focus has to be on pitching and defense right now, hence the decision to play Chavez over Paulino. I expect Paulino to be sent down. He's an adequate backup but that's about it.

I agree that LaRoche is not the firstbaseman of the future, but now is not the time to bench him in favor of Pearce. He will start hitting eventually. He always does. And Pearce has not yet earned a promotion.

I have my doubts about Pearce being the first baseman of the future as well, but we have to see how this plays out. Maybe Bay or Nady, or Grabow or Marte, brings some more options come July.

Maybe a spell at Indy will turn things around for Paulino. It seemed to work out for guys like Jay Bell and Jeff King.

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AT least Chavez can catch. He threw another runner out tonight. When is the last time Senor Renaldo did it?


Sunday, May 25, vs. the Cubs, as a matter of fact. He cut down Reed Johnson trying to steal second.

According to Baseball Reference, Paulino has gunned down 7 of 30 so far. Chavez: 3 of 7. Doumit: 6 of 16.

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 Post subject: Re: Pearce moving back to 1B again
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7 of 30 isn't terrible, but Chavez is clearly the better defensive player by a wide margin. He blocks balls with an ease and confidence that you will never see from Paulino. That has to be comforting to a pitcher. Plus he is much better at controlling the running game.


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Ralphie wrote:
7 of 30 isn't terrible, but Chavez is clearly the better defensive player by a wide margin. He blocks balls with an ease and confidence that you will never see from Paulino. That has to be comforting to a pitcher. Plus he is much better at controlling the running game.


Just for the heck of it, I ran the caught-stealing numbers for each NL team so far this season, and, if my math is correct, the Pirates are fifth-best @ 16-for-37 = .432.

Milwaukee is a phenomenal 25-for-31 (.806). Second: the Mets (15-for-20, .750). Third: St. Louis (14-for-25, .560). Florida is fourth: 17-for-37, .459.

Worst: the Padres (12-for-72, .166), with Arizona and the Giants tied at .189.

San Diego also has had the most attempts against: 72. Houston has had the fewest: 18.

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 Post subject: Re: Pearce moving back to 1B again
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Bob in Boston wrote:

Milwaukee is a phenomenal 25-for-31 (.806). Second: the Mets (15-for-20, .750). Third: St. Louis (14-for-25, .560). Florida is fourth: 17-for-37, .459.


How in balls name is a team that employs Jason Kendall leading the league in throwing out baserunners??!!!!

My hypothesis is that they have stretched the basepaths to 110 feet from 1st to 2nd...


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 Post subject: Re: Pearce moving back to 1B again
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BBF wrote:
Bob in Boston wrote:

Milwaukee is a phenomenal 25-for-31 (.806). Second: the Mets (15-for-20, .750). Third: St. Louis (14-for-25, .560). Florida is fourth: 17-for-37, .459.


How in balls name is a team that employs Jason Kendall leading the league in throwing out baserunners??!!!!

My hypothesis is that they have stretched the basepaths to 110 feet from 1st to 2nd...


Actually, I spent the better part of the afternoon thinking about it, and I think I came up with an answer...by the time the baserunner runs AROUND Prince Fielder, its an easy play. Perhaps the key to improving Ronny's arm is to sign Mo Vaughn.


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 Post subject: Re: Pearce moving back to 1B again
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Ah, c'mon BBF....if you are going to give a straight line, at least let someone else do the punch line!


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 Post subject: Re: Pearce moving back to 1B again
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BBF wrote:
BBF wrote:
Bob in Boston wrote:

Milwaukee is a phenomenal 25-for-31 (.806). Second: the Mets (15-for-20, .750). Third: St. Louis (14-for-25, .560). Florida is fourth: 17-for-37, .459.


How in balls name is a team that employs Jason Kendall leading the league in throwing out baserunners??!!!!

My hypothesis is that they have stretched the basepaths to 110 feet from 1st to 2nd...


Actually, I spent the better part of the afternoon thinking about it, and I think I came up with an answer...by the time the baserunner runs AROUND Prince Fielder, its an easy play. Perhaps the key to improving Ronny's arm is to sign Mo Vaughn.



Prince Fielder is using the baserunner's uniform as a napkin while stands out there and eats buffalo wings and sausage

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 Post subject: Re: Pearce moving back to 1B again
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I am thrilled to see Pearce at first. I also don't see LaRoche as our 1B of the future. The "slow starter" thing is just an excuse; he's not that good.

I am also thrilled he did play in the OF. Knowing Pearce can play in the OF or at 1B gives the team options. That is such an underrated thing.


Pearce had another nice game Wednesday: 1-for-2, with a double, a SAC fly, a stolen base, a run scored, and 2 RBI. He's on a 6-game hitting streak (7-for-19, .368), and 4 of them have been for extra bases.

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 Post subject: Re: Pearce moving back to 1B again
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Chavez is a good catcher. He receives the ball really well, blocks pitches in the dirt, and now has thrown out 4 of 9 attempted base stealers (44%).

Once again, if he could hit a lick, he would be a darn fine backup. Ryan Doumit needs at least 1 day off per week, possibly 2. On those weeks where the Pirates play 7 games in a week, the backup C will be in the lineup twice. That is 6-8 plate appearances.

Offense is so important that normally I would cringe at having Chavez in the line-up. But seeing him the past week, his defense is so good that he merits play time - not at the expense of Doumit, mind you, given how good Doumit has been this year. I mean, Chavez deserves time spelling Doumit maybe 1-2x per week (preferably once per week) for day game after night game, regular rest, etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Pearce moving back to 1B again
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sisyphus wrote:
bassoondirector wrote:
http://pittsburgh.pirates.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080603&content_id=2830757&vkey=news_pit&fext=.jsp&c_id=pit

There are, in my humble opinion, two big dead weights on this Pirate team. They are LaRoche and Paulino. The sooner they are gone or moved to a secondary role the better for me.

I wouldn't have any problem if Paulino is shipped out, LaRoche is moved to the Bench and Pearce is brought up to play 1B. I would play Mientkiewicz more at 1B until Pearce can make it up to the Pirates.

The deadest weight on this team right now is Freddy Sanchez, and it isn't close. He can't hit and he can't throw.


And he can't draw walks. That month they had him hitting leadoff was brutal.


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 Post subject: Re: Pearce moving back to 1B again
PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:42 pm 
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Elmer wrote:
IA Pirate wrote:
Why trade Paulino? The Pirates wouldn't get a thing in return and he is a fantastic backup catcher.


Also, if he's such a fantastic backup catcher, why is this Chavez kid getting more starts than him?


B/C losing his starting job to Chavez shows how great a backup catcher he really is. :lol:


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