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 Post subject: How long can it take to find if Sano is 16, 18, or 30?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:38 am 
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The first day the Pirates could have signed him to a contract was July 2nd correct?

It is now 2 weeks and a day later, and there is still no concrete evidence what year this guy was born in?.

I cannot figure out why these MLB birthday cops cannot come up with a definite answer, going on 15 days after the hunt began to find this guy's true identity and age.

Don't they keep some kind of birth certificate records in the Dominican?.
Seems like an awful long time to answer one question about this guy.

How old is he really?.
When it's all said and done, i would like to know how they finally came up with the correct answer to this question. How was this investigation conducted, what rocks were turned over to get to the truth?.
Seems like someone is dragging a little tail, or they are just following a bunch of dead ends.

As the US is the world leader in data collection, i can't believe the MLB cops(which i am sure is stocked with ex detectives, cops, and such) are making this as difficult than the feds finding Bin Laden.


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 Post subject: Re: How long can it take to find if Sano is 16, 18, or 30?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:19 am 
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Yeah. You'd think they could look at his teeth or count the rings around his trunk or something. :D


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 Post subject: Re: How long can it take to find if Sano is 16, 18, or 30?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:37 am 
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http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/07/mlb-to-complete-sano-investigation-this-week.html

Looks like we should know by the end of the week.


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 Post subject: Re: How long can it take to find if Sano is 16, 18, or 30?
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I read somewhere that two of the tests they run include:

1) Bone density test - the Pirates had also previously done this on their own
2) DNA test of parent and child - to see if they are biologically linked

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 Post subject: Re: How long can it take to find if Sano is 16, 18, or 30?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:17 am 
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BostonBuc wrote:
I read somewhere that two of the tests they run include:

1) Bone density test - the Pirates had also previously done this on their own
2) DNA test of parent and child - to see if they are biologically linked


Has anyone ever heard of a bone density test defining age before? If so how close does it get the range to, or does it get it exact?
I never knew bone density tests to determine age before they Pirates starting talking about it.


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 Post subject: Re: How long can it take to find if Sano is 16, 18, or 30?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:33 am 
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I'm not a Dr. so maybe bone graft would have been the better term. Luckily I have never had any of that done. I had heard that at his age they felt that they could get within 24 months (not sure to what statistical probability) but to me that seems reasonable.

Here is one link where I saw this mentioned
http://www.twinkietown.com/2009/6/20/91 ... esota-twin

"Sano's agent said he has already had a DNA bone graft done, which reported that he's in the 16-17 range"

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 Post subject: Re: How long can it take to find if Sano is 16, 18, or 30?
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Okay here is my bold prediction. The Pirates will sign Sano by my birthday on July 28th. It would be a nice birthday present if they signed him that day. I believe he is under 18, i'm not going to go as far though as to say he is 16.


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 Post subject: Re: How long can it take to find if Sano is 16, 18, or 30?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:53 am 
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Why do you believe he is 17 and not 16?


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 Post subject: Re: How long can it take to find if Sano is 16, 18, or 30?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:05 am 
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Colin21 wrote:
BostonBuc wrote:
I read somewhere that two of the tests they run include:

1) Bone density test - the Pirates had also previously done this on their own
2) DNA test of parent and child - to see if they are biologically linked


Has anyone ever heard of a bone density test defining age before? If so how close does it get the range to, or does it get it exact?
I never knew bone density tests to determine age before they Pirates starting talking about it.


I think they have to cut off one of his limbs and count the rings inside.

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 Post subject: Re: How long can it take to find if Sano is 16, 18, or 30?
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I hate to be crass but does it really matter how old the kid is? He lives in the Dominican and is likely dirt poor. Its not like signing him to a multimillion dollar contract is going to deny him the opportunity to attend school or go to college. And playing baseball for a living (at a large salary) is violating the intent of any child labor laws. Playing baseball can't begin to compare to asian sweat shops. If the kids lives in the Dominican, teams are willing to commit these kind of dollars to him and he can significantly better the life of him and his family let him sign. Let the MLB clubs do their diligence. If they are willing to take the risk let them. They are the ones paying the big dollars out.

Then again I am also strongly in favor of instituting an international draft. The current system is unfair to American born players and gives an unfair advantage to the larger market teams.


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 Post subject: Re: How long can it take to find if Sano is 16, 18, or 30?
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Animal wrote:
I think they have to cut off one of his limbs and count the rings inside.


You beat me to it...I was thinking the same!

:lol:

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 Post subject: Re: How long can it take to find if Sano is 16, 18, or 30?
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IA Pirate wrote:
Animal wrote:
I think they have to cut off one of his limbs and count the rings inside.


You beat me to it...I was thinking the same!

:lol:


I guess Great Minds Think Alike! lol :D :D :D

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 Post subject: Re: How long can it take to find if Sano is 16, 18, or 30?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:30 pm 
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Pirates sign sano to record 5 million dollar bonus...Sano turns out to be 36...
Seriously though I think the kid is 16, and at the worst case he is 19. Sign him.

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