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 Post subject: Line-up again a problem
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:19 pm 
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Moss sits again. He's only 6-9 but not worthy of playing again. You figure it out. Enough for me-- I finially pi$$ed.

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 Post subject: Re: Line-up again a problem
PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:54 am 
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After Snell, I turned it off. Now I see we almost won the game.

Moss pitch hit in ninth and a double, RBI and run scored.
Pearce o-fur again
Morgan 1-3.

Make sense to any of you?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:02 am 
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Substitute2 wrote:
After Snell, I turned it off. Now I see we almost won the game.

Moss pitch hit in ninth and a double, RBI and run scored.
Pearce o-fur again
Morgan 1-3.

Make sense to any of you?


The only thing that is making sense to me is that Steve Pearce will never be a major leaguer. He also had that fielding blunder.


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 Post subject: Re: Line-up again a problem
PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:29 am 
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I dont have a problem sitting Moss against a lefty...Though, I'd rather have Moss out there than Morgan all the time...

Give Pearce a chance, this is Andy LaRoche all over again...lets give him a few games and at bats before making judgement, and he hasnt played the OF much at all...It's early

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 Post subject: Re: Line-up again a problem
PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:56 pm 
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nad69dan wrote:
I dont have a problem sitting Moss against a lefty...Though, I'd rather have Moss out there than Morgan all the time...

Give Pearce a chance, this is Andy LaRoche all over again...lets give him a few games and at bats before making judgement, and he hasnt played the OF much at all...It's early

Are you crazy morgan is a better player the Moss. He brings a speed threat plus gets on base more often, and he covers more outfield ground.

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 Post subject: Re: Line-up again a problem
PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:42 pm 
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So Morgan is better then Moss.

Morgan 264, 339, 344
Moss 268, 385, 314

The reason Morgan is higher in OBP is because he has walked more 27-10, but has played 7 more games and quite a few of Moss's games were as a pinch hitter. Morgan also has more Ks

While he has stolen 17 bases, he has been caught 7 times -- Moss has none but has not been caught either(LOL).

For some reason, JR and management act like you are right- you're not.

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Ryann wrote:
nad69dan wrote:
I dont have a problem sitting Moss against a lefty...Though, I'd rather have Moss out there than Morgan all the time...

Give Pearce a chance, this is Andy LaRoche all over again...lets give him a few games and at bats before making judgement, and he hasnt played the OF much at all...It's early

Are you crazy morgan is a better player the Moss. He brings a speed threat plus gets on base more often, and he covers more outfield ground.



Morgan needs that speed because he is not good in the OF...his speed makes up for not reading the ball off the bat...His speed gets him in trouble, like uh...sliding over the bases and his stolen base threat isnt as much of a threat now he's batting behind McCutchen...

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 Post subject: Re: Line-up again a problem
PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:58 pm 
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Well Moss is starting tonight but so is Morgan. what are we doing keeping our bench guy, Moss, ready to play some day. I'll stop beating this dead horse now but it really burns my butt (a fire about waist high).

One more though5t- Moss is 7-10 in these last 5 winless games and only started in two of them. How many has Moragn started? What's he hitting?

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 Post subject: Re: Line-up again a problem
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Morgan covers more outfield ground and has 17 more steals then moss.

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Ryann wrote:
Morgan covers more outfield ground and has 17 more steals then moss.


Moss hasnt made two stupid plays this season, one throwing to 2nd base when no one was covering and throwing to third on a single, giving the baserunner 2nd base...

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Substitute2 wrote:
Well Moss is starting tonight but so is Morgan. what are we doing keeping our bench guy, Moss, ready to play some day. I'll stop beating this dead horse now but it really burns my butt (a fire about waist high).

One more though5t- Moss is 7-10 in these last 5 winless games and only started in two of them. How many has Moragn started? What's he hitting?


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 Post subject: Re: Line-up again a problem
PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:57 pm 
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I sure could. Thanks.

A friend used to refer to this feeling as "getting the a$$".
Of course I don't want to go there.

Literally or any other way.....

No picture necessary here. Thanks.

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Ryann wrote:
Morgan covers more outfield ground and has 17 more steals then moss.

Morgan has also be caught stealing 7 more times than Moss has. Morgan is doing more damage to the team's scoring chances with his baserunning than Moss is. The team would be better off if Morgan never attempted to steal another base.

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Or, if he, you know, kept working at it and got better.

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 Post subject: Re: Line-up again a problem
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Willton wrote:
Ryann wrote:
Morgan covers more outfield ground and has 17 more steals then moss.

Morgan has also be caught stealing 7 more times than Moss has. Morgan is doing more damage to the team's scoring chances with his baserunning than Moss is. The team would be better off if Morgan never attempted to steal another base.

Again you are wrong wilton. Getting 17 steals and thrown out 7 times is like hitting 17 doubles. Morgan can get in scoring position moss can't!
You are saying 17 doubles is worse then 24 singles. :lol:
Morgan also puts pressure on defenses with his speed.
:P Wilton once again proven wrong! :P

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Ryann wrote:
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Ryann wrote:
Morgan covers more outfield ground and has 17 more steals then moss.

Morgan has also be caught stealing 7 more times than Moss has. Morgan is doing more damage to the team's scoring chances with his baserunning than Moss is. The team would be better off if Morgan never attempted to steal another base.

Again you are wrong wilton. Getting 17 steals and thrown out 7 times is like hitting 17 doubles. Morgan can get in scoring position moss can't!
You are saying 17 doubles is worse then 24 singles. :lol:
Morgan also puts pressure on defenses with his speed.
:P Wilton once again proven wrong! :P

No, 17 steals are not at all like getting 17 doubles. Why? Because other players cannot advance while you are stealing. Doubles knock in runs. Steals merely advance a player one base.

And while a steal can get Morgan into scoring position, getting caught removes the possibility of scoring completely. Stealing does not guarantee scoring. Getting caught guarantees not scoring.

And while your analogy is totally inapt, I would rather have the 24 singles over the 17 doubles if it means 7 fewer outs.

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Getting a steal and to 2nd is better then getting a single and getting on first. With nyjer a basehit scores him from 2nd every single time.

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Getting a steal and to 2nd is better then getting a single and getting on first. With nyjer a basehit scores him from 2nd every single time.

Yeah, unless he gets caught in the process, in which case he goes back to the bench and never has the opportunity to score. The out is far more important than the advanced base.

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 Post subject: Re: Line-up again a problem
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Willton wrote:
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Getting a steal and to 2nd is better then getting a single and getting on first. With nyjer a basehit scores him from 2nd every single time.

Yeah, unless he gets caught in the process, in which case he goes back to the bench and never has the opportunity to score. The out is far more important than the advanced base.

But more often then not he gets to 2nd instead of thrown out. 17 is larger then 7

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 Post subject: Re: Line-up again a problem
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Hitting infront of a guy like Freddy, who hits lots of doubles means Morgan doesnt need to steal as much if at all...He still has a problem over running the bases...

Morgan is a 4th or 5th OFer...He scares me in the OF and on the bases, when he gets on...

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