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 Post subject: Hurt vs Heal Volume 1 "Busts"
PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:57 pm 
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THE RULES:

You can only vote once a day.
� You have four points to use a day. Only two points can be used on one player.
� You can DOUBLE HEAL, DOUBLE HURT, or a combination of HURT/HEAL
� Once 10 players remain NO MORE HEALS
� One player must win. Even if it's possible to kill both of the final two players, the person who plays last must leave one player alive as the winner.
� Once a player has been reduced to 0, they are out, period. Game continues until one person is standing.

Pick your favorite bust.

Player Point total

Pete Schoureck 10
Pat Mears 10
Joe Randa 10
Jeromy Burnitz 10
Chris Stynes 10
Ed Sprauge 10
Mike Kingery 10
Brant Brown 10
Derek Bell 10
Raul Mondessi 10
Adrian Brown 10
Jermain Allensworth 10
Emil Brown 10
Dale Sveum 10
Charlie Hayes 10
Terry Moholland 10
Abraham Nunez 10
Doug Strange 10
Freddy Garcia 10
Chad Hermanson 10
Jose Batista 10


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 Post subject: Re: Hurt vs Heal Volume 1 "Busts"
PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:00 pm 
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Sounds decent. I'm not going to go first though to make sure i don't make any mistakes.


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 Post subject: Re: Hurt vs Heal Volume 1 "Busts"
PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:01 pm 
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I'm going first

Pete Schoureck 10
Pat Mears 11
Joe Randa 10
Jeromy Burnitz 10
Chris Stynes 10
Ed Sprauge 10
Mike Kingery 10
Brant Brown 10
Derek Bell 12
Raul Mondessi 10
Adrian Brown 10
Jermain Allensworth 10
Emil Brown 10
Dale Sveum 10
Charlie Hayes 10
Terry Moholland 10
Abraham Nunez 10
Doug Strange 10
Freddy Garcia 10
Chad Hermanson 9
Jose Batista 10


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 Post subject: Re: Hurt vs Heal Volume 1 "Busts"
PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:18 pm 
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Okay i get it now
I'll take 2 off of Emil Brown because he is a joke and not a nice person in real life.
I'll give 1 to Jose Bautista.
I will also give 1 to Abraham Nunez because he was nice when i got to meet them Pirates back in high school after we won the WPIAL.

Pete Schoureck 10
Pat Mears 11
Joe Randa 10
Jeromy Burnitz 10
Chris Stynes 10
Ed Sprauge 10
Mike Kingery 10
Brant Brown 10
Derek Bell 12
Raul Mondessi 10
Adrian Brown 10
Jermain Allensworth 10
Emil Brown 8
Dale Sveum 10
Charlie Hayes 10
Terry Moholland 10
Abraham Nunez 11
Doug Strange 10
Freddy Garcia 10
Chad Hermansen 9
Jose Bautista 11


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 Post subject: Re: Hurt vs Heal Volume 1 "Busts"
PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:31 pm 
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Okay i get it now
I'll take 2 off of Jeromy Burnitz because he sucked and was supposed to be good.
I will give Dale Sveum 1 because he went to IU w/ my sister

Pete Schoureck 10
Pat Mears 11
Joe Randa 10
Jeromy Burnitz 8
Chris Stynes 10
Ed Sprauge 10
Mike Kingery 10
Brant Brown 10
Derek Bell 12
Raul Mondessi 10
Adrian Brown 10
Jermain Allensworth 10
Emil Brown 8
Dale Sveum 11
Charlie Hayes 10
Terry Moholland 10
Abraham Nunez 11
Doug Strange 10
Freddy Garcia 10
Chad Hermansen 9
Jose Bautista 11

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 Post subject: Re: Hurt vs Heal Volume 1 "Busts"
PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:59 pm 
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JimY wrote:
Player Point total

Pete Schoureck 10
Pat Mears 10
Joe Randa 10
Jeromy Burnitz 10
Chris Stynes 10
Ed Sprauge 10
Mike Kingery 10
Brant Brown 10
Derek Bell 10
Raul Mondessi 8
Adrian Brown 10
Jermain Allensworth 10
Emil Brown 10
Dale Sveum 10
Charlie Hayes 10
Terry Moholland 10
Abraham Nunez 11
Doug Strange 10
Freddy Garcia 10
Chad Hermanson 10
Jose Batista 11


I am a kind and thoughtful guy, so I used 2 of my points to assist Bautista and Nunez. They are guys with some limitations on their skills, but played as well as their skills would allow.

Raul Mondesi walked out on the only team that thought he was worth paying. Just freaking left the team and then wound up polluting the Angels clubhouse, from whence he was banished as well. He deserves -200 right now. I will get him out of this contest in two more days.


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 Post subject: Re: Hurt vs Heal Volume 1 "Busts"
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Bucfan wrote:
JimY wrote:
Player Point total

Pete Schoureck 10
Pat Mears 10
Joe Randa 10
Jeromy Burnitz 10
Chris Stynes 10
Ed Sprauge 10
Mike Kingery 10
Brant Brown 10
Derek Bell 10
Raul Mondessi 8
Adrian Brown 10
Jermain Allensworth 10
Emil Brown 10
Dale Sveum 10
Charlie Hayes 10
Terry Moholland 10
Abraham Nunez 11
Doug Strange 10
Freddy Garcia 10
Chad Hermanson 10
Jose Batista 11


I am a kind and thoughtful guy, so I used 2 of my points to assist Bautista and Nunez. They are guys with some limitations on their skills, but played as well as their skills would allow.

Raul Mondesi walked out on the only team that thought he was worth paying. Just freaking left the team and then wound up polluting the Angels clubhouse, from whence he was banished as well. He deserves -200 right now. I will get him out of this contest in two more days.


I'm confused Bucfan. I copied JimY and added my points, Boston Bob copied mine and added his points in, you should copy Boston Bob's and add you points to his in bold lettering so we know who you are giving/taking points from. I understand you took from Mondesi, but you didn't add to Bautista or Nunez, because i added a point to each of them so they were up to 11. We need moderator to keep track of the points.


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 Post subject: Re: Hurt vs Heal Volume 1 "Busts"
PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:05 am 
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Working off of BostonBuc's list:

Pete Schoureck 10
Pat Mears 11
Joe Randa 10
Jeromy Burnitz 12
Chris Stynes 10
Ed Sprauge 10
Mike Kingery 10
Brant Brown 10
Derek Bell 16
Raul Mondessi 12
Adrian Brown 10
Jermain Allensworth 10
Emil Brown 12
Dale Sveum 9
Charlie Hayes 10
Terry Moholland 10
Abraham Nunez 8
Doug Strange 10
Freddy Garcia 10
Chad Hermansen 9
Jose Bautista 8

There are only two guys on the list that were true assholes, Bell and Mondessi. The rest were just victims of circumstance. I doubled down on "Operation Shutdown". Surprised Matt Morris didn't make the first round.


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 Post subject: Re: Hurt vs Heal Volume 1 "Busts"
PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:15 am 
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BostonBuc and Colin: Unless my reading comprehension skills are lacking, I believe you guys graded incorrectly. If you want to penalize a person you add to the score. The last man standing (the one with the most points) is the biggest bust.

I edited my list to reflect what I believe Boston, Colin, and Bucfan had in mind.

Oh and BostonBuc, you still have a point left as you only used three.


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 Post subject: Re: Hurt vs Heal Volume 1 "Busts"
PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:06 am 
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Pete Schoureck 10
Pat Mears 12
Joe Randa 9
Jeromy Burnitz 12
Chris Stynes 10
Ed Sprauge 10
Mike Kingery 9
Brant Brown 9

Derek Bell 16
Raul Mondessi 12
Adrian Brown 10
Jermain Allensworth 10
Emil Brown 12
Dale Sveum 9
Charlie Hayes 10
Terry Moholland 10
Abraham Nunez 8
Doug Strange 10
Freddy Garcia 10
Chad Hermansen 9
Jose Bautista 8

I took a point from Brant Brown because his "big career screwup" was with the Cubs not us. I took from Kingery because I had to rack my brain just to remember the man. I took from Randa because he was a bust in his second stint, but his first stint as a bucco was productive and then he was given away for nothing in the expansion draft. And I gave to Pat Mears. Because he had a shrine built to him, was paid very well over a three year deal, and was totally useless.


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 Post subject: Re: Hurt vs Heal Volume 1 "Busts"
PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:21 am 
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I am both confused and depressed. Confused because I'm not sure how this works and I would like to vote....for the record Derek Bell and Raul Mondesi get 2 points each as the worst Pirate players.

I am depressed by looking at this list and realizing how many jerks, washed up has-beens and never-weres we have had in the last 15 years. I am further depressed when I realize how many guys didn't make the list:Van BenSchoten, Brian Bullington Matt Morris, Jimmy Anderson, Paul Wagner, Bobby Hill, Warren Morris, etc., etc., etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Hurt vs Heal Volume 1 "Busts"
PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:47 am 
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How the hell did I forget Matt Frickin Morris?!??!?!? Damn.
Some guys I felt guilty putting on there. Nunez wasn't a bad dude, neither was Randa. But I had to put a lot of guys and those guys did suck, so they got on the list.
To play you just copy the list into your post. Then hurt or heal up to 4 points everyday. You can split up your points however you like. But you cant hurt or heal 1 player more than 2 points a day.
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 Post subject: Re: Hurt vs Heal Volume 1 "Busts"
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JimY wrote:
Pete Schoureck 10
Pat Mears 12
Joe Randa 9
Jeromy Burnitz 12
Chris Stynes 10
Ed Sprauge 10
Mike Kingery 9
Brant Brown 9

Derek Bell 16
Raul Mondessi 12
Adrian Brown 10
Jermain Allensworth 10
Emil Brown 12
Dale Sveum 9
Charlie Hayes 10
Terry Moholland 10
Abraham Nunez 8
Doug Strange 10
Freddy Garcia 10
Chad Hermansen 9
Jose Bautista 8

I am royally confused. I thought that we deducted points from players we disliked, and added points to those we liked, or some combination thereof. These totals have Raul Mondesi as the two most popular players on the list ... no freaking way that is accurate.

Am I misinterpreting here? Are we supposed to add points to those we don't like and vice versa?


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 Post subject: Re: Hurt vs Heal Volume 1 "Busts"
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Bucfan wrote:
JimY wrote:
Pete Schoureck 10
Pat Mears 12
Joe Randa 9
Jeromy Burnitz 12
Chris Stynes 10
Ed Sprauge 10
Mike Kingery 9
Brant Brown 9

Derek Bell 16
Raul Mondessi 12
Adrian Brown 10
Jermain Allensworth 10
Emil Brown 12
Dale Sveum 9
Charlie Hayes 10
Terry Moholland 10
Abraham Nunez 8
Doug Strange 10
Freddy Garcia 10
Chad Hermansen 9
Jose Bautista 8

I am royally confused. I thought that we deducted points from players we disliked, and added points to those we liked, or some combination thereof. These totals have Raul Mondesi as the two most popular players on the list ... no freaking way that is accurate.

Am I misinterpreting here? Are we supposed to add points to those we don't like and vice versa?


If you duduct the player eventually has zero points and is taken off of the list. Getting off of the list is the idea. The last man standing is the biggest bust. Therefore the more points you have, the more likely you are to win the biggest bust award. At least that is my understanding.


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 Post subject: Re: Hurt vs Heal Volume 1 "Busts"
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Argentum wrote:
If you duduct the player eventually has zero points and is taken off of the list. Getting off of the list is the idea. The last man standing is the biggest bust. Therefore the more points you have, the more likely you are to win the biggest bust award. At least that is my understanding.

Well, duh. What idiot would not understand that concept ...


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 Post subject: Re: Hurt vs Heal Volume 1 "Busts"
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Added one each to: Meares, Bell, Mondesi, and Hermansen. Fat JimmyA should be on this list.

Also corrected a bunch of misspellings.


Pete Schourek 10
Pat Meares 13
Joe Randa 9
Jeromy Burnitz 12
Chris Stynes 10
Ed Sprague 10
Mike Kingery 9
Brant Brown 9
Derek Bell 17
Raul Mondesi 13
Adrian Brown 10
Jermaine Allensworth 10
Emil Brown 12
Dale Sveum 9
Charlie Hayes 10
Terry Mulholland 10
Abraham Nunez 8
Doug Strange 10
Freddy Garcia 10
Chad Hermansen 10
Jose Bautista 8


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 Post subject: Re: Hurt vs Heal Volume 1 "Busts"
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Pete Schourek 10
Pat Meares 14 +1
Joe Randa 9
Jeromy Burnitz 12
Chris Stynes 10
Ed Sprague 10
Mike Kingery 9
Brant Brown 9
Derek Bell 18 +1
Raul Mondesi 13
Adrian Brown 9 -1
Jermaine Allensworth 10
Emil Brown 12
Dale Sveum 9
Charlie Hayes 10
Terry Mulholland 10
Abraham Nunez 8
Doug Strange 10
Freddy Garcia 10
Chad Hermansen 9 -1
Jose Bautista 8

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IA Pirate wrote:
Pete Schourek 10
Pat Meares 15
Joe Randa 9
Jeromy Burnitz 12
Chris Stynes 10
Ed Sprague 10
Mike Kingery 9
Brant Brown 9
Derek Bell 19
Raul Mondesi 13 + 4 = 17
Adrian Brown 8
Jermaine Allensworth 10
Emil Brown 12
Dale Sveum 9
Charlie Hayes 10
Terry Mulholland 10
Abraham Nunez 8
Doug Strange 10
Freddy Garcia 10
Chad Hermansen 8
Jose Bautista 8


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 Post subject: Re: Hurt vs Heal Volume 1 "Busts"
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This is an update after Bucfan for mine today.
I am taking all 4 of my points off of Emil Brown.

Pete Schourek 10
Pat Meares 15
Joe Randa 9
Jeromy Burnitz 12
Chris Stynes 10
Ed Sprague 10
Mike Kingery 9
Brant Brown 9
Derek Bell 19
Raul Mondesi 17
Adrian Brown 8
Jermaine Allensworth 10
Emil Brown 8
Dale Sveum 9
Charlie Hayes 10
Terry Mulholland 10
Abraham Nunez 8
Doug Strange 10
Freddy Garcia 10
Chad Hermansen 8
Jose Bautista 8


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 Post subject: Re: Hurt vs Heal Volume 1 "Busts"
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Pete Schourek 10
Pat Meares 16
Joe Randa 9
Jeromy Burnitz 12
Chris Stynes 10
Ed Sprague 10
Mike Kingery 9
Brant Brown 9
Derek Bell 19
Raul Mondesi 17
Adrian Brown 8
Jermaine Allensworth 10
Emil Brown 8
Dale Sveum 9
Charlie Hayes 10
Terry Mulholland 10
Abraham Nunez 8
Doug Strange 10
Freddy Garcia 10
Chad Hermansen 8
Jose Bautista 5

I took 3 pts from Joey Bats because I just don't hate him that much. I gave 1 point to Pap Smear because once when he was on the DL for an entire season we were playing the Brewers and Pap dressed up as a giant sausage and ran the bases. Fun and hijinks from a guy who was making 3 mil per. Read this article if you aren't sure why Pat is getting so many votes.
http://mondesishouse.blogspot.com/2009/06/pat-meares-20.html


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