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 Post subject: Re: The Draft
PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:36 am 
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I pretty much agree w/ your summary omgardd and I think the Alex photo is funny.

If this FO is pointing toward 2011/2012 then Crow makes sense , and I do think that's where they are pointing. I also agree that the "Dominican kid" is a long shot given that he could sign w/ any team but maybe we'll match the top dollar and he'll be swayed by our commitment to the DR.

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 Post subject: Re: The Draft
PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:14 am 
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omgardd wrote:
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I am not a draft guru but Baseball America's Jim Callis thinks that the Pirates could consider Crow or Scheppers. I think one of these two would really go a long way answering questions about how serious they are because they will be expensive.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/dra ... 2#more-922


Nope, won't be drafting Scheppers. Per MLB draft rules, he'd need to give permission to us to draft him again. He declined. It appears he's still pissed that Opie and Coondog lowballed him last year.

http://insidepittsburghsports.com/story ... him/11671/

What did he expect? He wanted high first round money after getting drafted in the second, and he still couldn't throw after having a serious arm injury. He was a huge risk. Huge risks do not merit top dollar.

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 Post subject: Re: The Draft
PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:38 am 
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Risk/Reward.

You take a huge risk in possibly signing Scheppers last year with the arm troubles he had.
Your risk is rewarded this year with a pitcher that is reaching 97 on the radar gun.

Moot point because he's not being drafted here, but he could've been signed last year for far less money than some team is going to pay him this year.

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 Post subject: Re: The Draft
PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:33 pm 
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omgardd wrote:
Ok. So tell me what the quote "the city of Pittsburgh is going to be dissapointed with the pick." means to you.


The pick is not Strasburg.
The pick is nowhere close to the talent of Alvarez.
The pick won't generate enthusiasm or buzz as did the pick of Alvarez.
The draft (by everyone's assessment) is incredibly shallow and weak.

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 Post subject: Re: The Draft
PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:35 pm 
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This is the type of draft that makes those later picks all the more important.


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 Post subject: Re: The Draft
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omgardd wrote:

Nope, won't be drafting Scheppers. Per MLB draft rules, he'd need to give permission to us to draft him again. He declined. It appears he's still pissed that Opie and Coondog lowballed him last year.

http://insidepittsburghsports.com/story ... him/11671/


"Lowballed?"
Ahhh . . . . the benefit of hindsight. I don't remember anyone here complaining that the Bucs didn't pay first round cash to a guy who had arm troubles and threw poorly when he was asked to be evaluated by the Pirates.
Had they paid first round $$$, the wolves would have been howling about overpaying for damaged goods.
But, hey, why let that get in the way of being critical for critical's sake?

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 Post subject: Re: The Draft
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His fastball was in the 70's when he threw for the team and I don't believe he even threw a breaking ball for them.


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 Post subject: Re: The Draft
PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:44 pm 
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omgardd wrote:
Risk/Reward.

You take a huge risk in possibly signing Scheppers last year with the arm troubles he had.
Your risk is rewarded this year with a pitcher that is reaching 97 on the radar gun.

Moot point because he's not being drafted here, but he could've been signed last year for far less money than some team is going to pay him this year.

This is an excellent point. Scheppers is considered a top 10 pick this year. Had the Pirates taken the risk last year, which was rumored to be an additional $750,000, they would have had two top 10 picks in last year's draft. Alvarez, Scheppers, and whomever they take at #4 is much better than Alvarez, whomever they take at #4, and the 2nd round comp pick.


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 Post subject: Re: The Draft
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But, by all accounts, not better than Alvarez, Sano, and a 4th pick!

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 Post subject: Re: The Draft
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Scheppers wanted $2 million firm if memory serves me correctly. Well above slot for a second rounder. The Pirates passed on him for medical reasons and ultimately paid above slot for guys like Robbie Grossman and Quinton Miller. You can fault the strategy if you want, but you can't fault the money paid. Regardless of who got what, the Pirates spent a considerable sum last year on the draft.


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 Post subject: Re: The Draft
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And, Grossman appears to be worth it.

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