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 Post subject: Re: May 22, 2009 Pirates (19-22) at White Sox (17-23)
PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:01 pm 
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Duke pitched one heck of a game..


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 Post subject: Re: May 22, 2009 Pirates (19-22) at White Sox (17-23)
PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:02 pm 
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This is simple.

We sucked tonight.

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 Post subject: Re: May 22, 2009 Pirates (19-22) at White Sox (17-23)
PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:04 pm 
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2 Hits.

4 Base Runners.

Under 2 Hours.


And here comes Teke to tell us how Gavin Floyd is the reincarnation of Walter Big Train Johnson and Cy Young all rolled into one.

SPIN SPIN SPINNEROOO!


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 Post subject: Re: May 22, 2009 Pirates (19-22) at White Sox (17-23)
PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:16 pm 
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Pirates offense was putrid tonight. Just horrid.

Wow, Floyd has such a great curve ball. Okay, here's a remarkable idea: HIT THE FUCKING MEDIOCRE, NOTHING FASTBALL!!

Meanwhile, the scouting report for Nate McLouth: throw a breaking ball in the dirt. He either actually swings at the pitch, or barely holds up in time. And the next time you see Nate barely hold up, watch the pitcher throw the exact same pitch in the dirt - and I mean buried in the dirt, barely past home plate. Nate always swings at the second one.

Watching this game was a complete waste of two hours of my life. I should thank Duke for sparing me a lot of time by throwing a really good and quick game.


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 Post subject: Re: May 22, 2009 Pirates (19-22) at White Sox (17-23)
PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:28 pm 
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And to be clear on my harsh criticism of the pathetic hitting:

So far this year, Gavin Floyd has been gang-raped by AL hitters. Before tonight, he had not given up less than 5 hits or 2 runs in any start. His outings include stellar efforts such as 5 innings, 6 R's vs. Detroit, 4.1 innings, 6 R's vs. Toronto, 5 innings, 6 R's vs. KC, 5 innings, 8 runs vs. a Cleveland team that has done nothing this year, and 5 innings, 6 runs vs. Toronto.

The last 3 gems constitute his past 3 starts before this. A sterling 15 innings, 23 hits allowed, 7 walks, and 20 earned runs, for a commendable ERA of 12.00 and a fabulous WHIP of 2.00.

No wonder we were shut down. The guy is on freaking fire.


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 Post subject: Re: May 22, 2009 Pirates (19-22) at White Sox (17-23)
PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:49 pm 
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Right handed batters were hitting .325 against Floyd going into tonight. So how many right handed batters did we start tonight? Two, Freddy and Jack, and Freddy looked like he should have stayed home.

Congrats, JR...that's two nights in a row. What feat of stupidity will we see tomorrow night to cost a game.


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 Post subject: Re: May 22, 2009 Pirates (19-22) at White Sox (17-23)
PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:52 pm 
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Hopefully somebody in the front office will come to their senses and put an end to Johnny ball before the end of the season. I'm absolutely fed up with this dunce costing us games.

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 Post subject: Re: May 22, 2009 Pirates (19-22) at White Sox (17-23)
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Thunder wrote:
Right handed batters were hitting .325 against Floyd going into tonight.

Actually, it was .344. But hey, coming into this game left-handers were hitting him like a drum, to the tune of .293/.359/.500.

In other words, an OPS of .859, which would be the best on the Pirates. The entire group of left-handed hitters in the AL, combined, was hitting Floyd better than any Pirate hitter has produced so far this year.

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 Post subject: Re: May 22, 2009 Pirates (19-22) at White Sox (17-23)
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I'm very disappointed and frustrated: someone could explain me why if the mound works there are few hits and when the offense is in great shape the mound instead doesn't work?

It's like "binary code Pirates": if it's A is not B, if it's B is not A....

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 Post subject: Re: May 22, 2009 Pirates (19-22) at White Sox (17-23)
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Interesting. We now question Nate McClouth's plate patience.

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 Post subject: Re: May 22, 2009 Pirates (19-22) at White Sox (17-23)
PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 2:26 pm 
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Gavin Floyds' ERA: 6.54,



AFTER throwing eight shutout innings against us.


Spin that, Teke.


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 Post subject: Re: May 22, 2009 Pirates (19-22) at White Sox (17-23)
PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 2:50 pm 
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ZelieMike wrote:
Interesting. We now question Nate McClouth's plate patience.

ZM

Wrong. The opposite is true. He is swinging at breaking balls in the dirt, or barely keeping from swinging at them. Pitchers are taking advantage of this tendency.

It is not his patience at issue - it is his pitch recognition. McLouth is too important to the offense to be waving at pitches in the dirt.


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 Post subject: Re: May 22, 2009 Pirates (19-22) at White Sox (17-23)
PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 3:57 pm 
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Rod Serling wrote:
Gavin Floyds' ERA: 6.54,



AFTER throwing eight shutout innings against us.


Spin that, Teke.

I'll take a stab at this one.

The Pirates aren't a very good offensive team especially when they sit their regular 3rd baseman and don't play Delwyn Young.

By the way


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 Post subject: Re: May 22, 2009 Pirates (19-22) at White Sox (17-23)
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Rod Serling wrote:
Gavin Floyds' ERA: 6.54,



AFTER throwing eight shutout innings against us.


Spin that, Teke.

I'll take a stab at this one.

The Pirates aren't a very good offensive team especially when they sit their regular 3rd baseman and don't play Delwyn Young.

By the way did you see the salary dump in order to acquire Delwyn Young?


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 Post subject: Re: May 22, 2009 Pirates (19-22) at White Sox (17-23)
PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 4:27 pm 
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Alexandria Dukes wrote:
Rod Serling wrote:
Gavin Floyds' ERA: 6.54,



AFTER throwing eight shutout innings against us.


Spin that, Teke.

I'll take a stab at this one.

The Pirates aren't a very good offensive team especially when they sit their regular 3rd baseman and don't play Delwyn Young.

By the way did you see the salary dump in order to acquire Delwyn Young?


I'll take a stab as well. Gavin Floyd was 17-8 with a 3.84 ERA last year. He was off to a terrible start this year, but it's not unreasonable to suggest that he would eventually find his groove. Look, I'm not an apologist. The Pirates aren't a good offensive team right now but I'm not going over react to any one loss, especially not when they're just coming off a 5 game win streak.


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 Post subject: Re: May 22, 2009 Pirates (19-22) at White Sox (17-23)
PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 4:50 pm 
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burghermeister wrote:
Alexandria Dukes wrote:
Rod Serling wrote:
Gavin Floyds' ERA: 6.54,



AFTER throwing eight shutout innings against us.


Spin that, Teke.

I'll take a stab at this one.

The Pirates aren't a very good offensive team especially when they sit their regular 3rd baseman and don't play Delwyn Young.

By the way did you see the salary dump in order to acquire Delwyn Young?


I'll take a stab as well. Gavin Floyd was 17-8 with a 3.84 ERA last year. He was off to a terrible start this year, but it's not unreasonable to suggest that he would eventually find his groove. Look, I'm not an apologist. The Pirates aren't a good offensive team right now but I'm not going over react to any one loss, especially not when they're just coming off a 5 game win streak.


Of which all five wins came against the only two teams in baseball who are arguably worse than the Pirates.


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 Post subject: Re: May 22, 2009 Pirates (19-22) at White Sox (17-23)
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Of which all five wins came against the only two teams in baseball who are arguably worse than the Pirates.

If you're point is to prove the 2009 Pirates aren't very good, you likely won't get much argument. However, I will argue the Pirates have a much improved starting rotation. If Gorzelanny can rebound and Lincoln is the real deal, the Pirates may have one of the better rotations next year with those two, Maholm, Duke, and Ohlendorf. And if you have a solid rotation, it just takes a couple of bats (something easier to develop or acquire than pitching) to be a competitive team. And considering all those pitchers are under contract in 2011, I can see a nice foundation to go along with McLouth, Doumit, Andy LaRoche, Pedro Alvarez, Brian Friday, and Andrew McCutchen. And who know, maybe the Pirates add a few other prospects in deals for Wilson, Sanchez, and Adam LaRoche.


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 Post subject: Re: May 22, 2009 Pirates (19-22) at White Sox (17-23)
PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 10:13 pm 
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Alexandria Dukes wrote:
Rod Serling wrote:
Of which all five wins came against the only two teams in baseball who are arguably worse than the Pirates.

If you're point is to prove the 2009 Pirates aren't very good, you likely won't get much argument. However, I will argue the Pirates have a much improved starting rotation. If Gorzelanny can rebound and Lincoln is the real deal, the Pirates may have one of the better rotations next year with those two, Maholm, Duke, and Ohlendorf. And if you have a solid rotation, it just takes a couple of bats (something easier to develop or acquire than pitching) to be a competitive team. And considering all those pitchers are under contract in 2011, I can see a nice foundation to go along with McLouth, Doumit, Andy LaRoche, Pedro Alvarez, Brian Friday, and Andrew McCutchen. And who know, maybe the Pirates add a few other prospects in deals for Wilson, Sanchez, and Adam LaRoche.



Also, Mars may just begin to orbit around Jupiter. An alternate universe might just take place, and pigs may begin to fly.

This ends, when Bob Nutting sells his franchise.

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