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 Post subject: Re: What to do about Gorzo
PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 3:45 pm 
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bucco boy wrote:
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If the WGN announcers think that Gorzo deliberately threw that fastball right down Broadway, then somebody is stupid, all right.


I think their point was Soriano is a first pitch fastball hitter. That Gorzo should know that. And he should.

My point wasn't about it being a fastball. It was about it being right down Broadway. Pitch selection isn't the whole equation. Location is at least as important. Actually, location is probably more important when you're throwing the fastball, because hitters who can't hit a fastball never get to the majors. If you're going to throw a pitch right down the pipe it doesn't matter what pitch you throw.

One of the best ways to pitch to a hitter is to give him the pitch he wants, but in a location where he can't handle it, and it works especially well against free swingers like Soriano. That is probably what the Pirates were trying to do there.

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 Post subject: Re: What to do about Gorzo
PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 5:07 pm 
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Chris Anderson wrote:
What to do about Gorzo? Easy, just don't have him pitch against the Cubs. Look at his splits...he is good against the rest of the league but just straight up blows against the Cubbies this year. 11 innings pitched with 21 of his 30 runs allowed!!!! In other words, his ERA against everyone else is 2.73!!! Russell...arrange the schedule so he never faces the Cubs again.


For that matter, I just don't think we match up well against the Cubs...they are stacked with right handed power hitters and we are using a rotation full of lefties. That's generally not going to work in our favor, especially if our lefties are struggling, particularly in the control department.


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 Post subject: Re: What to do about Gorzo
PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:02 pm 
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Substitute2 wrote:
Don't want to highjack your thread but have a question. If Soriano is a dead fastball hitter, why did Paulino call for the fastball?
Another criticism on the radio was that he was throwing all fast balls and they were crushing them. I didn't see the game but am left with the same question: why did Paulino call for those fastballs?


Good point Sub.
Soriano is a first pitch fastball hitter. Any call for a fastball should be out of the zone. If Paulino called for a fastball that is a definite mistake. In disgust, I chose to delete the game on TiVo so I don't know if it was a Gorzo shaking off Paulino situation. In any event, doesn't sound like a well called game at all. Doesn't sound like any adjustments were made at all.

I saw some of today's game on TV and will watch the remainder later but I was very impressed with the Cubs approach to hitting Duke. Very patient and hitting the ball exactly where it was pitched. Seems like they either match up well or have the Bucs scouted well or both.

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 Post subject: Re: What to do about Gorzo
PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:23 pm 
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No. 9 wrote:
Substitute2 wrote:
Don't want to highjack your thread but have a question. If Soriano is a dead fastball hitter, why did Paulino call for the fastball?
Another criticism on the radio was that he was throwing all fast balls and they were crushing them. I didn't see the game but am left with the same question: why did Paulino call for those fastballs?


Good point Sub.
Soriano is a first pitch fastball hitter. Any call for a fastball should be out of the zone. If Paulino called for a fastball that is a definite mistake. In disgust, I chose to delete the game on TiVo so I don't know if it was a Gorzo shaking off Paulino situation. In any event, doesn't sound like a well called game at all. Doesn't sound like any adjustments were made at all.

I saw some of today's game on TV and will watch the remainder later but I was very impressed with the Cubs approach to hitting Duke. Very patient and hitting the ball exactly where it was pitched. Seems like they either match up well or have the Bucs scouted well or both.

I noticed today that Duke was throwing an awful lot of fastballs early. Once he started to mix in other pitches he did much better. Unfortunately I didn't pay much attention to whether he was shaking off Paulino or not.

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