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 Post subject: Josh Harrison
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Pirates and Mets still in contact about Josh Harrison. Pirates focused on outfielder Brandon Nimmo.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/01/ ... inson.html


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 Post subject: Re: Josh Harrison
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I would be happy with Harrison for Nimmo straight up, even though he is our best option at second.


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 Post subject: Re: Josh Harrison
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Ralphie wrote:
I would be happy with Harrison for Nimmo straight up, even though he is our best option at second.


Me too, which is why the Mets don't want to do it.


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doug frobel wrote:
Ralphie wrote:
I would be happy with Harrison for Nimmo straight up, even though he is our best option at second.


Me too, which is why the Mets don't want to do it.


Maybe throw in some cash and/or a lower level player.

We don't need to trade Harrison at all, but we do need an outfielder, and I like the looks of this one.


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Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Maybe sweeten it a bit with another low level prospect. Only thing is that we would be getting pretty left-handed in the outfield, with Polanco, Meadows, Martin, and possibly Nimmo. Reynolds is a switch hitter.


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Will probably need to throw some cash their way as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Josh Harrison
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What is Nimmo's ceiling, exactly?

Is he primarily a D guy, or will he also be an OBP OF?

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 Post subject: Re: Josh Harrison
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NSMaster56 wrote:
What is Nimmo's ceiling, exactly?

Is he primarily a D guy, or will he also be an OBP OF?

Nimmo can hit, get on base, and play okay defense. Last year, .260/.379/.418, .158 ISO, 177 AB's, 17 XBH, including 5 HR's in the majors. Minor league OBP include .397 in 2013, .394 in 2014, .374 in 2015, .423 in 2016, and .371 in 2017. Nimmo is basically the kind of player Huntington seemed to prefer in the 2015 and 2016 drafts, where he believed that the aluminum-bat college power surge would die, and baseball players would return to the guys in the 1960's - guys who could hit for average, some power, run, play defense, get on base, not fan.

Lefty bat. Perfectly capable of playing LF at PNC. Would be an interesting add.

Finally, dealing Harrison for Nimmo would turn the Pirates from the righty-laden team of 2015 into a team with a freaking ton of lefty bats:

1B Bell
2B Moroff
3B Moran
LF Nimmo
RF Polanco

Five lefty bats in the everyday line-up. Rock on, lefties.


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 Post subject: Re: Josh Harrison
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Bucfan wrote:
NSMaster56 wrote:
What is Nimmo's ceiling, exactly?

Is he primarily a D guy, or will he also be an OBP OF?

Nimmo can hit, get on base, and play okay defense. Last year, .260/.379/.418, .158 ISO, 177 AB's, 17 XBH, including 5 HR's in the majors. Minor league OBP include .397 in 2013, .394 in 2014, .374 in 2015, .423 in 2016, and .371 in 2017. Nimmo is basically the kind of player Huntington seemed to prefer in the 2015 and 2016 drafts, where he believed that the aluminum-bat college power surge would die, and baseball players would return to the guys in the 1960's - guys who could hit for average, some power, run, play defense, get on base, not fan.

Lefty bat. Perfectly capable of playing LF at PNC. Would be an interesting add.

Finally, dealing Harrison for Nimmo would turn the Pirates from the righty-laden team of 2015 into a team with a freaking ton of lefty bats:

1B Bell
2B Moroff
3B Moran
LF Nimmo
RF Polanco

Five lefty bats in the everyday line-up. Rock on, lefties.


8-) lefties stick together


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 Post subject: Re: Josh Harrison
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rellimie wrote:
8-) lefties stick together

Heh. Here is one example:

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Lefties ...

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 Post subject: Re: Josh Harrison
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rellimie wrote:
Bucfan wrote:
NSMaster56 wrote:
What is Nimmo's ceiling, exactly?

Is he primarily a D guy, or will he also be an OBP OF?

Nimmo can hit, get on base, and play okay defense. Last year, .260/.379/.418, .158 ISO, 177 AB's, 17 XBH, including 5 HR's in the majors. Minor league OBP include .397 in 2013, .394 in 2014, .374 in 2015, .423 in 2016, and .371 in 2017. Nimmo is basically the kind of player Huntington seemed to prefer in the 2015 and 2016 drafts, where he believed that the aluminum-bat college power surge would die, and baseball players would return to the guys in the 1960's - guys who could hit for average, some power, run, play defense, get on base, not fan.

Lefty bat. Perfectly capable of playing LF at PNC. Would be an interesting add.

Finally, dealing Harrison for Nimmo would turn the Pirates from the righty-laden team of 2015 into a team with a freaking ton of lefty bats:

1B Bell
2B Moroff
3B Moran
LF Nimmo
RF Polanco

Five lefty bats in the everyday line-up. Rock on, lefties.


8-) lefties stick together


I love 'em too. I am one. But I don't like to see them back to back in a lineup. I just remember that killing the Bucs back in the 90s when they had Van Slyke, Bonilla, and Bonds. The other team would bring in a tough lefty, turning Bonilla around to his right side where he had less power, and somewhat neutralizing the other two. It killed a lot of rallies. I don't know, maybe it's not a big thing.


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 Post subject: Re: Josh Harrison
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Bucfan wrote:
NSMaster56 wrote:
What is Nimmo's ceiling, exactly?

Is he primarily a D guy, or will he also be an OBP OF?

Nimmo can hit, get on base, and play okay defense. Last year, .260/.379/.418, .158 ISO, 177 AB's, 17 XBH, including 5 HR's in the majors. Minor league OBP include .397 in 2013, .394 in 2014, .374 in 2015, .423 in 2016, and .371 in 2017. Nimmo is basically the kind of player Huntington seemed to prefer in the 2015 and 2016 drafts, where he believed that the aluminum-bat college power surge would die, and baseball players would return to the guys in the 1960's - guys who could hit for average, some power, run, play defense, get on base, not fan.

Lefty bat. Perfectly capable of playing LF at PNC. Would be an interesting add.

Finally, dealing Harrison for Nimmo would turn the Pirates from the righty-laden team of 2015 into a team with a freaking ton of lefty bats:

1B Bell
2B Moroff
3B Moran
LF Nimmo
RF Polanco

Five lefty bats in the everyday line-up. Rock on, lefties.


Moroff over Frazier at 2B. I get that Frazier's defense is pretty brutal, but no chance he can improve it if that's his one and only position? He's so much better offensively.


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 Post subject: Re: Josh Harrison
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Jack Round Tripper wrote:
Bucfan wrote:
NSMaster56 wrote:
What is Nimmo's ceiling, exactly?

Is he primarily a D guy, or will he also be an OBP OF?

Nimmo can hit, get on base, and play okay defense. Last year, .260/.379/.418, .158 ISO, 177 AB's, 17 XBH, including 5 HR's in the majors. Minor league OBP include .397 in 2013, .394 in 2014, .374 in 2015, .423 in 2016, and .371 in 2017. Nimmo is basically the kind of player Huntington seemed to prefer in the 2015 and 2016 drafts, where he believed that the aluminum-bat college power surge would die, and baseball players would return to the guys in the 1960's - guys who could hit for average, some power, run, play defense, get on base, not fan.

Lefty bat. Perfectly capable of playing LF at PNC. Would be an interesting add.

Finally, dealing Harrison for Nimmo would turn the Pirates from the righty-laden team of 2015 into a team with a freaking ton of lefty bats:

1B Bell
2B Moroff
3B Moran
LF Nimmo
RF Polanco

Five lefty bats in the everyday line-up. Rock on, lefties.


Moroff over Frazier at 2B. I get that Frazier's defense is pretty brutal, but no chance he can improve it if that's his one and only position? He's so much better offensively.


You have to analyze if Frazier is giving up more runs than he is generating though.


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 Post subject: Re: Josh Harrison
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Bucfan wrote:
NSMaster56 wrote:
What is Nimmo's ceiling, exactly?

Is he primarily a D guy, or will he also be an OBP OF?

Nimmo is basically the kind of player Huntington seemed to prefer in the 2015 and 2016 drafts, where he believed that the aluminum-bat college power surge would die, and baseball players would return to the guys in the 1960's - guys who could hit for average, some power, run, play defense, get on base, not fan.

Lefty bat. Perfectly capable of playing LF at PNC.


So basically a poor man's Ellsbury (or Ellsbury Lite)?

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 Post subject: Re: Josh Harrison
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From Rosenthal

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The Mets turned down a trade for Andrew McCutchen that was centered around outfielder Brandon Nimmo, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. The reason for the Mets backing out is said to be their fondness of Nimmo’s five years of control and the potential they see in him.


It went on to say they liked Harrison's versatility and 3 year contract more than McCutchens 1 and done.

https://www.amazinavenue.com/2018/1/16/16898742/mets-pirates-mccutchen-trade-nimmo-harrison

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 Post subject: Re: Josh Harrison
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From Rosenthal

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The Mets turned down a trade for Andrew McCutchen that was centered around outfielder Brandon Nimmo, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. The reason for the Mets backing out is said to be their fondness of Nimmo’s five years of control and the potential they see in him.


It went on to say they liked Harrison's versatility and 3 year contract more than McCutchens 1 and done.

https://www.amazinavenue.com/2018/1/16/16898742/mets-pirates-mccutchen-trade-nimmo-harrison


Nimmo seems pretty intriguing. But then so did Travis Snider back in 2012 - and as much as I really liked Lunchbox, that just didn't work out....

Not saying don't do the deal, but for a guy like Harrison they need to be really confident that they aren't just picking up a AAAA outfielder....


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