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Author:  rellimie [ Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:11 pm ]
Post subject:  My plan for 2018+

Trade Cole to the Yanks for Frazier, Adams

Trade Harrison for bullpen help

Trade Cutch for as many prospects as you can get

Trade Nova for what you can

Acquire Starlin Castro

Use Meadows in a package for Archer

Author:  NSMaster56 [ Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: My plan for 2018+

Yes to the first and last.

No to the middle four.

Author:  rellimie [ Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: My plan for 2018+

NSMaster56 wrote:
Yes to the first and last.

No to the middle four.


No use in acquiring Frazier if you are keeping Cutch, Polanco, and Marte. I would prefer to move Cutch or Polanco.

I am retracting my desire to acquire Castro. I know he is basically Harrison from an offensive perspective, it was more for contract reasons. I didn’t realize that the final 2 years of Harrison’s contract (19 and 20) were team options. Knowing that I just assume keep Harrison however if someone was willing to over pay I’d consider it.

Any reason why you wouldn’t want to trade Nova?

Author:  JollyRoger [ Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:53 am ]
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rellimie wrote:
Any reason why you wouldn’t want to trade Nova?


Because no one needs half a baseball...

Author:  rellimie [ Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:11 pm ]
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JollyRoger wrote:
rellimie wrote:
Any reason why you wouldn’t want to trade Nova?


Because no one needs half a baseball...


:lol:

Author:  ZelieMike [ Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My plan for 2018+

JollyRoger wrote:
rellimie wrote:
Any reason why you wouldn’t want to trade Nova?


Because no one needs half a baseball...


Yeah, I mean, he's only played 3 halves of baseball here, two of which were brilliant. But, yeah dump him for a bag o' balls. Got it.

ZM

Author:  NSMaster56 [ Sat Dec 23, 2017 9:50 pm ]
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rellimie wrote:
NSMaster56 wrote:
Any reason why you wouldn’t want to trade Nova?


Depth and experience.

Author:  Ryann [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My plan for 2018+

rellimie wrote:
Trade Cole to the Yanks for Frazier, Adams

Trade Harrison for bullpen help

Trade Cutch for as many prospects as you can get

Trade Nova for what you can

Acquire Starlin Castro

Use Meadows in a package for Archer


They traded Cole for a package of significantly less worth than Frazier and Adams.

Traded Cutch for 2 players, that can hardly be considered valuable.

They will not pay for Castro.

Author:  ZelieMike [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:30 pm ]
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NSMaster56 wrote:
rellimie wrote:
NSMaster56 wrote:
Any reason why you wouldn’t want to trade Nova?


Depth and experience.


And, until he tired, he has been pretty damn good. Pitching wins and you picked up 3 arms for 1 this weekend. I don't see anyone deeper in the NLC.

ZM

Author:  rellimie [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My plan for 2018+

Ryann wrote:
rellimie wrote:
Trade Cole to the Yanks for Frazier, Adams

Trade Harrison for bullpen help

Trade Cutch for as many prospects as you can get

Trade Nova for what you can

Acquire Starlin Castro

Use Meadows in a package for Archer


They traded Cole for a package of significantly less worth than Frazier and Adams.

Traded Cutch for 2 players, that can hardly be considered valuable.

They will not pay for Castro.


I made this post when I believed the rumors of Cole being worth Adams and Frazier, obviously he wasn't.

Author:  The Rotten One [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:36 pm ]
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Quote:
Pitching wins and you picked up 3 arms for 1 this weekend. I don't see anyone deeper in the NLC.


Wait, What?

Lets have a look:

Tiallon - When has this dude had any luck at all? Talk about a guy who is consistently hurt
Nova - Again... The national league has figured him out
Kuhl
Williams
Glasnow - Did I miss something?

Did you know: The Pirates team ERA was higher in 2017 than it was in 2016 when they had Niese, Locke and Voglesong

WTF?

Author:  ZelieMike [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My plan for 2018+

The Rotten One wrote:
Quote:
Pitching wins and you picked up 3 arms for 1 this weekend. I don't see anyone deeper in the NLC.


Wait, What?

Lets have a look:

Tiallon - When has this dude had any luck at all? Talk about a guy who is consistently hurt
Nova - Again... The national league has figured him out
Kuhl
Williams
Glasnow - Did I miss something?

Did you know: The Pirates team ERA was higher in 2017 than it was in 2016 when they had Niese, Locke and Voglesong

WTF?


ERA means shit. You should know that.

But, if you must, compare the ERA's from the 1st half to the 2nd, and especially the last 1.5 months.

You also forgot Kingham, Keller, Sadler, among others.

Care to tell me who has a better, deeper pitching in the NLC? Name names.

ZM

Author:  abitoutside [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My plan for 2018+

ZelieMike wrote:
The Rotten One wrote:
Quote:
Pitching wins and you picked up 3 arms for 1 this weekend. I don't see anyone deeper in the NLC.


Wait, What?

Lets have a look:

Tiallon - When has this dude had any luck at all? Talk about a guy who is consistently hurt
Nova - Again... The national league has figured him out
Kuhl
Williams
Glasnow - Did I miss something?

Did you know: The Pirates team ERA was higher in 2017 than it was in 2016 when they had Niese, Locke and Voglesong

WTF?


ERA means shit. You should know that.

But, if you must, compare the ERA's from the 1st half to the 2nd, and especially the last 1.5 months.

You also forgot Kingham, Keller, Sadler, among others.

Care to tell me who has a better, deeper pitching in the NLC? Name names.

ZM


They finished behind Milwaukee and Chicago and just ahead of STL according to Baseball Reference and they just traded away their best pitcher per the same source.

Author:  ZelieMike [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:18 pm ]
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abitoutside wrote:
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They finished behind Milwaukee and Chicago and just ahead of STL according to Baseball Reference and they just traded away their best pitcher per the same source.


I'm not talking bout last year. Half of Chicago's staff is gone or going. STL has only gotten worse. Name me who on Mil you want instead of what we have? How deep do they go, or was last year an aberration (hint, yes).

ZM

Author:  PirateParrot [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My plan for 2018+

ZelieMike wrote:
abitoutside wrote:
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They finished behind Milwaukee and Chicago and just ahead of STL according to Baseball Reference and they just traded away their best pitcher per the same source.


I'm not talking bout last year. Half of Chicago's staff is gone or going. STL has only gotten worse. Name me who on Mil you want instead of what we have? How deep do they go, or was last year an aberration (hint, yes).

ZM

Well shit...then I guess I better keep next October free so I can get me some Pirate World Series tickets... :roll: :lol: :shock:

Author:  ZelieMike [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:51 pm ]
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Everyone likes to make fun, roll eyes or get snarky.

I'm still waiting on some answers.

ZM

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