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 Post subject: HBT ranks Pirates farm system #11
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:47 am 
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The Hardball Times has published their farm system value rankings. The Pirates come in just outside the top 10.

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11. Pittsburgh Pirates, NPV: $87.35 million
Top 100 Prospects: Pedro Alvarez (12), Andrew McCutchen (19), Jose Tabata (60)
This is what happens when teams spend on elite hitting talent in the draft. I hate to bring this up with Pirates fans, but Pittsburgh would be in the top five on this list if it had drafted Matt Wieters. Their top end hitting talent brings the Pirates near the top 10, but they lack depth. Still, this is a good start for Pittsburgh.


Milwaukee (10) and St. Louis (8) still outpace them, while Cincinnati (23), Chicago (26) and Houston (30) fall to the bottom 10.

Links to both parts of the report:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/farm-system-value-rankings-part-2/
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/farm-system-value-rankings-part-one/

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 Post subject: Re: HBT ranks Pirates farm system #11
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:40 am 
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Great, who's going to talk Bucfan off of the ledge this time? :)


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 Post subject: Re: HBT ranks Pirates farm system #11
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:33 pm 
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Weiters' name being mentioned 3 times in a row brings bucfan to the board like Beetlejuice...

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 Post subject: Re: HBT ranks Pirates farm system #11
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:36 pm 
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The problem with some of these things is that while the Reds number looks low, it's only because of a mass of graduates last year who are already making a name for themselves: Jay Bruce, Joey votto, Homer Bailey, Johnny Cueto...that would look pretty good in any other teams lineup.


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 Post subject: Re: HBT ranks Pirates farm system #11
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:24 pm 
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Well ill just say the Mets better hope they do something either this season or next season or they might end up the lovable losers for the next 10 years.Braves and Marlins really look good for a run in a couple years


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 Post subject: Re: HBT ranks Pirates farm system #11
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:59 am 
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chetthespian wrote:
The problem with some of these things is that while the Reds number looks low, it's only because of a mass of graduates last year who are already making a name for themselves: Jay Bruce, Joey votto, Homer Bailey, Johnny Cueto...that would look pretty good in any other teams lineup.

The only name Homer Bailey has made for himself thus far is "Uncoachable Jackass." He, and to a lesser degree Jay Bruce, still have much to prove.

Maintaining a steady pipeline of ML-ready talent in the upper minors is a hallmark of well-run, competitive organizations. For their much-vaunted payroll, this has really been the key to Boston's success over the past 5-7 years. Cincy just graduated an impressive group, but they've not done such a hot job of drafting and developing players behind them. Their cabinet is pretty bare right now. Hence the low ranking.

If they can develop any pitchers who can keep the ball on the ground, Texas is going to be scary-good in the next couple years.

When was the last time the Pirates had a farm system rated this highly by a reputable publication? That's a serious question — I really don't know.

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 Post subject: Re: HBT ranks Pirates farm system #11
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Great, who's going to talk Bucfan off of the ledge this time? :)


I have a dream ... David Littlefield is crossing the street, and is run over by Matt Wieters' mom, who happens to be a Pirates fan.

Maybe not Martin Luther King-esque, but what the heck, it's my dream.


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LtCol Kojak Slaphead wrote:

When was the last time the Pirates had a farm system rated this highly by a reputable publication? That's a serious question — I really don't know.



... ironically, it was the man of unmentionables that had done so. Mr. Camaroonies had assembled a well-respected minor league crop after the unloading of the last of the 1992 team. Power arms and guys who were considered to have real potential. This was also before Ron Wright's back went on him.

I think the besmirched one may have actually won some kind of GM award for that effort.

Then the arms started going "bloom!", and the boy Prince and the insufferable one panicked and started signing Indian's rejects.

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