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 Post subject: Pirates Sign Dominican Pitcher
PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:39 pm 
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The Pirates have signed another Latin American amateur, 6-foot-3 right-handed pitcher Jean Carlos Ozoria from the Dominican. He will turn 17 next month. He can hit 91 mph with his fastball and has a curveball and change




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 Post subject: Re: Pirates Sign Dominican Pitcher
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Cross your fingers.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates Sign Dominican Pitcher
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Willton wrote:
Cross your fingers.


You mean that hes actually 17 and not 28?

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates Sign Dominican Pitcher
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You took the words right out of my mouth dan.


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates Sign Dominican Pitcher
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I would think that sort of detail would be getting more than its due diligence these days.

But let's also hope this kid sees his full signing bonus, too.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates Sign Dominican Pitcher
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nad69dan wrote:
Willton wrote:
Cross your fingers.


You mean that hes actually 17 and not 28?


I believe that the news release identified his age as "17ish."


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates Sign Dominican Pitcher
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I joke but I read something about the Gayo and the Latin Academy this fall and how they use Bone Density tests to help determine if some of them are lying about their age...I wonder how many more teams will start this or possibly when will this becomes a Major League Baseball requirement?

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Maria turns over her son's passport and birth certificate, but that will not be enough to prove his age and identity. Major League Baseball's Santo Domingo office, installed earlier this decade to reduce rampant fraud that was costing the sport millions, will undertake the required investigation of Frias' age through paperwork and interviews.

If the Pirates still have doubts, they could perform a bone-analysis DNA test, as they began doing last year. That is what they did earlier this year to prove that a pitcher who went by Joldi Sierra was lying about his name and age. The team rescinded the contract immediately and got its money back.

Gayo tells tales of having only a grandmother's word as proof of a player's age, of recordkeeping in one village being handled by one "old man on a hill" who could be bribed for $10,000, of a player hiring an aunt to lie -- and cry -- for him under an assumed name. There is no computerized identity database in the Dominican.

"You can be pretty much anybody you want here," Gayo says.


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates Sign Dominican Pitcher
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I joke but I read something about the Gayo and the Latin Academy this fall and how they use Bone Density tests to help determine if some of them are lying about their age...I wonder how many more teams will start this or possibly when will this becomes a Major League Baseball requirement?

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"You can be pretty much anybody you want here," Gayo says.


http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08335/931514-63.stm

My doubts about published ages and dates of birth go beyond Dominican players. I always doubted the published age for one Francisco Cordova, from Mexico. He was supposedly 28 when this picture was taken:

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28? Uhhhhh, okay.


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates Sign Dominican Pitcher
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Didnt Cordova pitch on his Mexican League Team with his dad?

Maybe Cordova Sr came to Pittsburgh instead of junior?


I always thought the down fall of Cordova was his Mr. T Jewelry approach to the game...His bling made Fort Knox jealous...

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates Sign Dominican Pitcher
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Bucfan wrote:
nad69dan wrote:
I joke but I read something about the Gayo and the Latin Academy this fall and how they use Bone Density tests to help determine if some of them are lying about their age...I wonder how many more teams will start this or possibly when will this becomes a Major League Baseball requirement?

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"You can be pretty much anybody you want here," Gayo says.


http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08335/931514-63.stm

My doubts about published ages and dates of birth go beyond Dominican players. I always doubted the published age for one Francisco Cordova, from Mexico. He was supposedly 28 when this picture was taken:

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28? Uhhhhh, okay.

Maybe he hit the bottle too hard in his early 20's. Or, maybe he's got the Benjamin Button thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates Sign Dominican Pitcher
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Willton wrote:
Or, maybe he's got the Benjamin Button thing.

:D :D :D :D :D


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