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 Post subject: Re: July 21, 2014 Dodgers (55-45) at Pirates (52-46)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:16 pm 
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It does not feel like we are leading this game.

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 Post subject: Re: July 21, 2014 Dodgers (55-45) at Pirates (52-46)
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By the way, Pedro left this game with a knee injury.

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 Post subject: Re: July 21, 2014 Dodgers (55-45) at Pirates (52-46)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:31 pm 
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I want Russell Martin to hit a grand slam SOOO bad right now after he got plunked twice.


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 Post subject: Re: July 21, 2014 Dodgers (55-45) at Pirates (52-46)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:31 pm 
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Thank you Chris Perez. just walked 4 straight batters. Bucs now up 9-7 with the bases loaded and one out in the bottom of the 8th.

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 Post subject: Re: July 21, 2014 Dodgers (55-45) at Pirates (52-46)
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That better do it.

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 Post subject: Re: July 21, 2014 Dodgers (55-45) at Pirates (52-46)
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BIG hit from Martin. four run lead now.

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 Post subject: Re: July 21, 2014 Dodgers (55-45) at Pirates (52-46)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:35 pm 
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NSMaster56 wrote:
That better do it.


Hold that thought for now.


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 Post subject: Re: July 21, 2014 Dodgers (55-45) at Pirates (52-46)
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Do the Dodgers have every former AL closer in their bullpen?

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 Post subject: Re: July 21, 2014 Dodgers (55-45) at Pirates (52-46)
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Clevelandsux wrote:
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That better do it.


Hold that thought for now.


Why?

This game is in the ba---

"Ernesto Frieri enters the game"

Oh...

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 Post subject: Re: July 21, 2014 Dodgers (55-45) at Pirates (52-46)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:57 pm 
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bucco boy wrote:
Do the Dodgers have every former AL closer in their bullpen?


Chris Perez, 4 straight walks. That why they ran him out of here in c town.


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 Post subject: Re: July 21, 2014 Dodgers (55-45) at Pirates (52-46)
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Glad to see Polanco have a great game! Obviously the day off helped a little!


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 Post subject: Re: July 21, 2014 Dodgers (55-45) at Pirates (52-46)
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Another error by Pedro, leads to another run. Where are the Pedro defenders now?

Yeah, if it wasn't for Pedro they would have won.

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 Post subject: Re: July 21, 2014 Dodgers (55-45) at Pirates (52-46)
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bucco boy wrote:
Do the Dodgers have every former AL closer in their bullpen?


Well, the Pirates brought in THEIR former AL closer to end the game. Mr. Ernesto Frieri. So they don't have EVERY one.


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 Post subject: Re: July 21, 2014 Dodgers (55-45) at Pirates (52-46)
PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:14 am 
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Last 2 guys should've been punched out looking, both 2-strike pitches caught a solid amount of plate. Ironic that this is occurring as Bud Selig is in the booth talking about how replay, the thing he had to be dragged into kicking and screaming, is now some sort of positive in his eyes. If it's that great, computerize the strike zone or get some umps that won't blow 10% of every pitch call.


10%? You are being too kind.


Has that actually been quantified or did you just throw that number out there?

Last night the home plate umpire was very bad, in terms of overall number of calls missed. Also the call that Diaz blew at first was ridiculous - the runner was clearly and obviously safe. Love that both of our challenges were upheld, throwing egg on the umpires' faces.

I didn't have a problem with Wilson being ejected, or with their guy not being ejected when he hit Martin with a curve ball. You have to look at apparent intent, and I agreed with the umpire there.


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 Post subject: Re: July 21, 2014 Dodgers (55-45) at Pirates (52-46)
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That's horseshit. How do you run Wilson without issuing warnings first? The incompetence among umpires with zero is infuriating.


Actually, no warning is necessary. The ump actually enforced the rule as opposed to following "old school" tradition. Wilson was clearly retaliating and threw at the batter on purpose. Not saying that I approve/disapprove of the call. Just pointing out the rule.

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 Post subject: Re: July 21, 2014 Dodgers (55-45) at Pirates (52-46)
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As a FYI, if you are of the belief that Pitch F/X should be the definitive arbiter of balls and strikes, it shows that the ump actually gave Worley more strikes outside the zone than vice versa. And it shows only one blatantly bad ball call. The other two were right on the black.

I've said my peace on why Pitch F/X does not replicate the strike zone. I am not a proponent of using it to call balls and strikes. Simply pointing out that it shows that the home plate ump actually benefitted Worley on balance - according to Pitch F/X.

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 Post subject: Re: July 21, 2014 Dodgers (55-45) at Pirates (52-46)
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StarlingArcher wrote:
Pussies won't even allow close plays to be replayed in the stadium because god forbid they be held responsible for mediocrity.


???
They show close plays all the time now. Except at Wrigley. No jumbotron.

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 Post subject: Re: July 21, 2014 Dodgers (55-45) at Pirates (52-46)
PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:17 am 
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No. 9 wrote:
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Pussies won't even allow close plays to be replayed in the stadium because god forbid they be held responsible for mediocrity.


???
They show close plays all the time now. Except at Wrigley. No jumbotron.


Let me know next time you see a checked swing or any other unchallengeable call up there. Before challenges there was nothing controversial that was allowed to be replayed.

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 Post subject: Re: July 21, 2014 Dodgers (55-45) at Pirates (52-46)
PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:22 pm 
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No. 9 wrote:
As a FYI, if you are of the belief that Pitch F/X should be the definitive arbiter of balls and strikes, it shows that the ump actually gave Worley more strikes outside the zone than vice versa. And it shows only one blatantly bad ball call. The other two were right on the black.

I've said my peace on why Pitch F/X does not replicate the strike zone. I am not a proponent of using it to call balls and strikes. Simply pointing out that it shows that the home plate ump actually benefitted Worley on balance - according to Pitch F/X.


If a bad call goes in our favor that doesn't make it a good call.


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 Post subject: Re: July 21, 2014 Dodgers (55-45) at Pirates (52-46)
PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:46 pm 
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Ralphie wrote:
bucco boy wrote:
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Last 2 guys should've been punched out looking, both 2-strike pitches caught a solid amount of plate. Ironic that this is occurring as Bud Selig is in the booth talking about how replay, the thing he had to be dragged into kicking and screaming, is now some sort of positive in his eyes. If it's that great, computerize the strike zone or get some umps that won't blow 10% of every pitch call.


10%? You are being too kind.


Has that actually been quantified or did you just throw that number out there?

Last night the home plate umpire was very bad, in terms of overall number of calls missed. Also the call that Diaz blew at first was ridiculous - the runner was clearly and obviously safe. Love that both of our challenges were upheld, throwing egg on the umpires' faces.

I didn't have a problem with Wilson being ejected, or with their guy not being ejected when he hit Martin with a curve ball. You have to look at apparent intent, and I agreed with the umpire there.


From January 2014. Looks like it's around 15% of ball/strike calls are missed.

http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2014/1/27/5341676/how-well-do-umpires-call-balls-and-strikes

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