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 Post subject: Ollie hits it big . . .
PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:06 pm 
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3 years and $36,000,000.
Good for him. Barring acts of outright stupidity, he and several "Ollie-generations" should be well-set financially.
As for the Mets . . . this is a gamble that they can afford to take. If it were the Pirates . . . it would be a gamble that they could not afford. Investing $12,000,000/year in one pitcher who may (and I stress "may") be a top of the line guy but who may be - at best - a 4th or 5th guy . . . is not a luxury that NH and FC have.

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 Post subject: Re: Ollie hits it big . . .
PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:12 pm 
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Even with the Mets' resources, that's a horrible contract.

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 Post subject: Re: Ollie hits it big . . .
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I just wonder where this leaves the market for Ben Sheets?


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 Post subject: Re: Ollie hits it big . . .
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Colin21 wrote:
I just wonder where this leaves the market for Ben Sheets?

It seems to me that the worst-kept secret among GMs is that Sheets is seriously damaged goods. I think it's very telling that the Brewers haven't even made a token gesture of bringing him back.

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 Post subject: Re: Ollie hits it big . . .
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WOW what does that say about the Pirates chances to compete. If we did that, I would be very upset. The Mets do it and what-- their taking a chance?

Baseball is not going to survive here.

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 Post subject: Re: Ollie hits it big . . .
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LtCol Kojak Slaphead wrote:
Colin21 wrote:
I just wonder where this leaves the market for Ben Sheets?

It seems to me that the worst-kept secret among GMs is that Sheets is seriously damaged goods. I think it's very telling that the Brewers haven't even made a token gesture of bringing him back.


You got that right.


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 Post subject: Re: Ollie hits it big . . .
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If you don't see that money is destroying baseball now, you'll never see it. Ollie (who I like) isn't worth $36 million. Many turned down $25 million? It only gets worse by the day. How can any team outside the major cities continue to compete? They can't.

I know they have in the recent past, but the money today is just not something anyone can wrap their arms around. (Must be a picture here guys.)

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 Post subject: Re: Ollie hits it big . . .
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Substitute2 wrote:
If you don't see that money is destroying baseball now, you'll never see it. Ollie (who I like) isn't worth $36 million. Many turned down $25 million? It only gets worse by the day. How can any team outside the major cities continue to compete? They can't.

I know they have in the recent past, but the money today is just not something anyone can wrap their arms around. (Must be a picture here guys.)

People keep making this claim, and yet it keeps getting proven wrong. Last year's playoffs featured the Rays and Brewers. 2007's playoffs featured the Indians, Rockies, and D'Backs. 2006's playoffs featured the Cardinals, A's, Twins, Tigers, and Padres. 2005's playoffs featured the Braves, Cardinals, and Padres. Need I go on?

The whole concept of money destroying baseball is one giant myth that gets perpetuated despite the evidence to the contrary. What has been proven true time and time again is that teams that win have done so by building a strong nuclear base of players through their minor league system.

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 Post subject: Re: Ollie hits it big . . .
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Willton wrote:
People keep making this claim, and yet it keeps getting proven wrong. Last year's playoffs featured the Rays and Brewers. 2007's playoffs featured the Indians, Rockies, and D'Backs. 2006's playoffs featured the Cardinals, A's, Twins, Tigers, and Padres. 2005's playoffs featured the Braves, Cardinals, and Padres. Need I go on?

The whole concept of money destroying baseball is one giant myth that gets perpetuated despite the evidence to the contrary. What has been proven true time and time again is that teams that win have done so by building a strong nuclear base of players through their minor league system.

You're quite correct, but that still doesn't make this a good contract.

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 Post subject: Re: Ollie hits it big . . .
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LtCol Kojak Slaphead wrote:
Willton wrote:
People keep making this claim, and yet it keeps getting proven wrong. Last year's playoffs featured the Rays and Brewers. 2007's playoffs featured the Indians, Rockies, and D'Backs. 2006's playoffs featured the Cardinals, A's, Twins, Tigers, and Padres. 2005's playoffs featured the Braves, Cardinals, and Padres. Need I go on?

The whole concept of money destroying baseball is one giant myth that gets perpetuated despite the evidence to the contrary. What has been proven true time and time again is that teams that win have done so by building a strong nuclear base of players through their minor league system.

You're quite correct, but that still doesn't make this a good contract.

Never said it was. The Mets are taking a rather expensive gamble, IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: Ollie hits it big . . .
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But I think that is the point. The Mets are gambling and if wrong it will be embarrassibg but won't cripple them in the long run. The Pirates make that move and it backfires, they are destroyed for years to come (think Jack Morris many times over).

I know that we are doing it the only way we can to have a chance to succeed but they need only make some right moves to stay ahead. In the long run, they will make more good then bad decisions and will continue to be at the top. People lose interest this way for us. It's just so depressing.

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 Post subject: Re: Ollie hits it big . . .
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Hell, it's time for pitchers and catchers. So, it's time to dream and hope for great things from these kids. Enough of the realism and time get that hope spring eternal feeling going.

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