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 Post subject: Doumit BREAKS his thumb
PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:35 pm 
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Doumit had a ball glance off his catcher's mitt (he was apparently crossed up) and hurt his left thumb.

@$&*&%$#*&%$

This lineup is nowhere near the same with Joggin Ronnie in it.

EDIT: PPG reports that the tip of Doumit's left thumb is fractured.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08135/881620-63.stm

DAMMIT.

This really hurts the lineup. Doumit batting 4th just seemed to be a guy who was always getting on base, scoring runs, driving in runs, allowing guys like Nady and Laroche to hit lower in the order.

This franchise needs some luck.


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 Post subject: Re: Doumit hurts his thumb
PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:55 pm 
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As if he didn't get enough playing time, now an injury. SOB.

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 Post subject: Re: Doumit hurts his thumb
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God help us if it is serious. Please, no DL time.

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IA Pirate wrote:
Please, no DL time.


That can be read two ways. And I agree that for either, no DL time.


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IA Pirate wrote:
God help us if it is serious. Please, no DL time.

For the sake of my fantasy team, I hope you're right.

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 Post subject: Re: Doumit BREAKS his thumb
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Can't say we didn't see this coming.

Will be interesting to see if pitching staff ERA drops by a run over the next month, though.

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ZelieMike wrote:
Will be interesting to see if pitching staff ERA drops by a run over the next month, though.


Code:
2008 Player     G   GS  PB SBA  CS  CS%  CERA
Doumit, Ryan    25  25  4  10   6  .375  4.62
Paulino, Ronny  16  14  0  11   4  .267  5.25
Team Totals:    39  39  4  21   10 .323  4.86


Will also be interesting to see if runs scored drops.


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 Post subject: Re: Doumit BREAKS his thumb
PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:02 am 
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What terrible news to wake up and see this morning. Doumit, my favorite Bucco...dammit.

Let's hope so guys can step up. It's a good time for LaRoche to be snapping out of his slump. The pitchers need to really step up as well.

This sucks.

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 Post subject: Re: Doumit BREAKS his thumb
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Argentum wrote:
ZelieMike wrote:
Will be interesting to see if pitching staff ERA drops by a run over the next month, though.


Code:
2008 Player     G   GS  PB SBA  CS  CS%  CERA
Doumit, Ryan    25  25  4  10   6  .375  4.62
Paulino, Ronny  16  14  0  11   4  .267  5.25
Team Totals:    39  39  4  21   10 .323  4.86


Will also be interesting to see if runs scored drops.


Interesting to note that Doumit has thrown out 38% of attempted base stealers. That is pretty darn good.


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 Post subject: Re: Doumit BREAKS his thumb
PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:30 pm 
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The starters have vastly improved ERAs in the past two weeks. Did Doumit just sort of learn to manage pitchers?
Without Morris' high ERA would our team ERA be near as high?
To imply, as you do, that Paulino will be the savior of the staff has many aspects to it. If it comes down, their is no reason to blame the high ERA on the previous catcher,when there are so many other factors involved,like hitters being ahead of pitchers at the beginning of the season.

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I'm not implying anything at all.

I am interested to see if what we saw last year, happens again. There was a huge 2 run differance in pitchers ERA between those two, and much arguement over the value of handling pitchers and the like.

Throw Morris aside, and the Pirates pitchers this year have started horribly with the highest ERA in baseball, with Doumit doing most of the catching again.

It will interesting to see if we can make conclusions on this matter in the next few weeks or so.

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ZelieMike wrote:
I'm not implying anything at all.

I am interested to see if what we saw last year, happens again. There was a huge 2 run differance in pitchers ERA between those two, and much arguement over the value of handling pitchers and the like.

Throw Morris aside, and the Pirates pitchers this year have started horribly with the highest ERA in baseball, with Doumit doing most of the catching again.

It will interesting to see if we can make conclusions on this matter in the next few weeks or so.

ZM

You can't make conclusions on this matter in a few weeks because of sample size. That is the same reason you can't insist that Paulino is superior at calling a game from last year's statistics; Doumit did not get enough time behind the plate. And CERA doesn't mean squat, anyway, unless you normalize is for each pitcher over a full season. I have my doubts that it means anything even then, or else Doug Gwosdz would be in the Hall of Fame.

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Ryan "Injury Prone" Doumit out for one month. And now, it's the Ronny "Joggin" Paulino Show...:roll:

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bassoondirector wrote:
Ryan "Injury Prone" Doumit out for one month. And now, it's the Ronny "Joggin" Paulino Show...:roll:

Yeah, that Doumit, his thumb bone sure is brittle.

I'm hoping that some competition and some time on the bench might have helped Joggin' Ronnie. The times that I've seen him play this year (not all that much, I confess), I haven't noticed any lapses in effort nor any dropped balls on plays at the plate. Have others? And even though his average isn't that great, he's had some clutch hits. 13 RBI in only 58 ABs is nothing to sneeze at. We'll see...


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burghermeister wrote:
I'm hoping that some competition and some time on the bench might have helped Joggin' Ronnie. The times that I've seen him play this year (not all that much, I confess), I haven't noticed any lapses in effort nor any dropped balls on plays at the plate. Have others?


None that I can recall offhand, other than once or twice seeing him give less than 100% effort when running out grounders. Or maybe he is just that slow.


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 Post subject: Re: Doumit BREAKS his thumb
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My worst fear for this team was a Doumit injury. I absolutely love how this guy plays the game. He reminds me of a Long Beach State "Dirtbag".

I'm still going to order his jersey tomorrow. Do I go with the home white or road gray? I have a home white already but haven't worn it in a few years and probably can't for another 15 years (it's a Kendall jersey). I figure in 15 years it will be a throwback.

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IA Pirate wrote:
My worst fear for this team was a Doumit injury. I absolutely love how this guy plays the game. He reminds me of a Long Beach State "Dirtbag".


Our old friend Buck would be the guy to ask about the Dirtbags.

IA Pirate wrote:
I have a home white already but haven't worn it in a few years and probably can't for another 15 years (it's a Kendall jersey). I figure in 15 years it will be a throwback.


That is pretty funny. Does that I can wear my Joe Orsulak jersey now?


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burghermeister wrote:
Yeah, that Doumit, his thumb bone sure is brittle.


Yep, it would be Doumit who would break his thumb trying to catch a ball as a catcher using his catcher's mit. Injury prone?........nah........ :?

Is he going to have to wear a special catcher's mit from now on? Or maybe special armor on his thumb or hand?

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bassoondirector wrote:
burghermeister wrote:
Yeah, that Doumit, his thumb bone sure is brittle.


Yep, it would be Doumit who would break his thumb trying to catch a ball as a catcher using his catcher's mit. Injury prone?........nah........ :?

Is he going to have to wear a special catcher's mit from now on? Or maybe special armor on his thumb or hand?


I assume this post is in jest? Catchers break fingers all the time, it has nothing to do with being injury prone. It has to do with a bal being thrown over 85 mph at them, and in this case, he didn't catch it in the mitt, it clanged off the thumb. Through high school, when I finally quit playing ball, I played with 3 catchers who had broken a thumb at one point, two of them broken by myself, and I didn't top 85.


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Bucfan wrote:
That is pretty funny. Does that I can wear my Joe Orsulak jersey now?



Oh yeah, you can proudly wear the Orsulak jersey!

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