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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:41 pm 
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Tanaka a Yankee - 7 years/$155M.
Yet, he probably getting paid a smaller percentage of Yankee total revenue than McCutchen is getting of Pirate total revenue.

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 Post subject: Re: Moneyball
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So much for the Yankees staying under the luxury tax limit... :lol: :lol: :lol:


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The Evil Empire just became more evil in my mind. :evil:


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Lost in the shuffle of the Yankees big signing, the Phillies are bringing back 85 year old Bobby Abreu.

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 Post subject: Re: Moneyball
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Just got a text from my neighbor indicating that Tanaka - at age 24 - has pitched 1,314 professional innings. To compare, Adam Wainwright has pitched 1,323 innings at age 33. In used car terms . . . he has some serious mileage on those tires.

Sidenote . . . incredible stat . . . Greg Maddux faced 20,421 batters in his career. He went to a 3-0 count a mere 133 times (.0065%).

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 Post subject: Re: Moneyball
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No sure thing here.

I looked up Daisuke's stats for comparison. For his career he has a 4.52 ERA and a 1.41 WHIP, averaging just barely over 100 innings per year.


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 Post subject: Re: Moneyball
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No. 9 wrote:
Just got a text from my neighbor indicating that Tanaka - at age 24 - has pitched 1,314 professional innings. To compare, Adam Wainwright has pitched 1,323 innings at age 33. In used car terms . . . he has some serious mileage on those tires.

Sidenote . . . incredible stat . . . Greg Maddux faced 20,421 batters in his career. He went to a 3-0 count a mere 133 times (.0065%).

Agree about the innings, but... in Japan they pitch on 6 days rest, sometimes 7. And the season's shorter, so there's more recovery time. He's just been pitching professionally since he was, what 16?

As for Maddux... Wow.


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 Post subject: Re: Moneyball
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Ralphie wrote:
No sure thing here.

I looked up Daisuke's stats for comparison. For his career he has a 4.52 ERA and a 1.41 WHIP, averaging just barely over 100 innings per year.


Dice K had some control issues in Japan and wasn't quite as dominant as Tanaka. Darvish was totally dominant (superior K and similar BB numbers). I'd expect Tanaka to fall somewhere between those two.

I do find it totally ridiculous that he got the same contract as Felix Hernandez without having thrown an MLB pitch though. Leave it to the Yankees to always make me appreciate the guys like NH and Billy Beane who have to make intelligent and cost efficient moves.


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Yankees seem to be hedging with their opt out. Probably smart.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/pitch-counts-are-a-real-concern-when-it-comes-to-sensation-masahiro-tanaka-055941978.html

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 Post subject: Re: Moneyball
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No. 9 wrote:
Just got a text from my neighbor indicating that Tanaka - at age 24 - has pitched 1,314 professional innings. To compare, Adam Wainwright has pitched 1,323 innings at age 33. In used car terms . . . he has some serious mileage on those tires.

Sidenote . . . incredible stat . . . Greg Maddux faced 20,421 batters in his career. He went to a 3-0 count a mere 133 times (.0065%).


Excellent point.

To me the more concerning thing is that they're basically paying him King Felix/Verlander money.

That's a ton of hype to live up to in any city, much less the media inferno that is NY. Boston ate Dice-K alive and the Yanks turned both Irabu and Igawa into punchlines. They need to 'tread lightly'.

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