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 Post subject: Cutch and Hurdle finalists
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:02 am 
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I think Hurdle wins. Cutch 2nd to Molina.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/pirates/2013/11/05/Clint-Hurdle-a-finalist-for-NL/stories/201311050187

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 Post subject: Re: Cutch and Hurdle finalists
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My take? Hurdle will win easily. Cutch will nose out Molina - leading Bucs to playoffs makes the difference.

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 Post subject: Re: Cutch and Hurdle finalists
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:43 pm 
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Most in the media say Cutch is going to win. Many of those are from members of the BBWA and have a vote on one of these awards. Given the strong media consensus that Cutch will win, it would be a shocker to me if he didn't.


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 Post subject: Re: Cutch and Hurdle finalists
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Molina is great but if the writers vote on the basis of "who is the most valuable player to his team", Cutch has to win. The offense would have been AWFUL without Cutch.


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 Post subject: Re: Cutch and Hurdle finalists
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JollyRoger wrote:
Molina is great but if the writers vote on the basis of "who is the most valuable player to his team", Cutch has to win. The offense would have been AWFUL without Cutch.


Or if they use the other "best overall player" methodology, McCutchen should still win. Molina's defense won't top McCutchen being the no. 1 offensive WAR player in the NL and being in the top 5/10 of virtually every "classic" offensive statistic - BA, OBP, OPS, SB. Molina only cracks the top ten in BA.


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 Post subject: Re: Cutch and Hurdle finalists
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Though I think Kershaw would normally win in a year like this, I can see how the Pittsburgh making the playoffs and breaking an 0-20 streak storyline could put Cutch over the top.


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 Post subject: Re: Cutch and Hurdle finalists
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bucco boy wrote:


Cutch losing to Molina would be quite disappointing. But I don't think it happens.

The most important stat in comparing the two, at least in my view, is this: 157 to 136.

That's games played. Cutch played 21 more games than Molina, didn't go on the DL, provided similar defensive value, and swung a better bat. The award should go to #22.


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