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 Post subject: Re: Discouraging news about Alvarez
PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:57 pm 
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BBF wrote:
You know, I have largely abstained from participating in this thread, but this is what it boils down to.

Weighing a kajillion pounds (estimated) has not stopped Prince Fielder from putting up an OPS over .900.

Being a jerk, a bad teammate, an @sshole, etc has not stopped many a player from putting up an OPS over .900.

And when Pedro puts up an OPS over .900, we are all going to wonder why we spent 10 pages debating the issue.

Furthermore, if people were as concerned about themselves coming off as an jerk as they are about Pedro being a jerk, this board would certainly be a lot different (and this thread would have only been a couple pages).

I disagree with you on one thing. When Pedro puts up his .900 OPS there will still be folks bitching that the Pirates didn't stick with Minky.

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 Post subject: Re: Discouraging news about Alvarez
PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:03 pm 
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Kingston wrote:
If he accepted arbitration, hedve ended up somewhere in the 10 million dollar range for 2009, according to various sources.



Hedve? Love it.

Also know though that a contract reached that way is NON-GUARANTEED. He could have been cut and owed nothing, though it would have to be for clear baseball reasons (probably not hard to justify since he hit .220 last year though).

I'm almost certain that arbitration deals are guaranteed.

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 Post subject: Re: Discouraging news about Alvarez
PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:16 pm 
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The panel, without opinion, awards the player a one-year, non-guaranteed contract at one salary or the other. If the player is cut within 16 days before the season begins, he is entitled only to 30 days’ termination pay. If the player is cut during spring training but after the 16th day before the season begins, he is entitled only to 45 days’ termination pay.


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 Post subject: Re: Discouraging news about Alvarez
PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:18 pm 
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Kingston wrote:

The panel, without opinion, awards the player a one-year, non-guaranteed contract at one salary or the other. If the player is cut within 16 days before the season begins, he is entitled only to 30 days’ termination pay. If the player is cut during spring training but after the 16th day before the season begins, he is entitled only to 45 days’ termination pay.

Wow. I'd offer arbritration to everybody then.

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 Post subject: Re: Discouraging news about Alvarez
PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:19 pm 
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sisyphus wrote:
Kingston wrote:

The panel, without opinion, awards the player a one-year, non-guaranteed contract at one salary or the other. If the player is cut within 16 days before the season begins, he is entitled only to 30 days’ termination pay. If the player is cut during spring training but after the 16th day before the season begins, he is entitled only to 45 days’ termination pay.

Wow. I'd offer arbritration to everybody then.


LOL!! Thats what I was sayin yesterday!!


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