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 Post subject: Serious question re: Byrd juicing
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:54 pm 
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It's pretty clear to me that Marlon Byrd used steroids last year. And I mean straight-up anabolic steroids. He was caught using one of the estrogen balancing drugs that are a must during a steroid cycle. This was right as he was about to retire - now all of the sudden he's having a career year (and still looking great as a Bucco).

I remember a lot of haranguing on here against cheaters like Braun and A-Rod, guys who we wouldn't want on our team. Why does Byrd get a pass and why are we suddenly ok with a steroid user taking the Bucs to the playoffs?

This is not meant to be an attempt to needle people. I'm legitimately curious. Is it just because of how much of a fraud they came across as due to their actions? Would we be ok with Nelson Cruz?

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 Post subject: Re: Serious question re: Byrd juicing
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This is not meant to be an attempt to needle people.


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 Post subject: Re: Serious question re: Byrd juicing
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:34 pm 
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If Braun were a Bucco I'd root for him.

How am I so sure? I root for Big Ben...

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 Post subject: Re: Serious question re: Byrd juicing
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:35 pm 
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I know nothing about Byrd's juicing, other than what I've read in Ape's posts. Other than his career year at age 34, what other evidence is there of him being dirty?

if he's clean, or remotely free from rumors, well, then I will enjoy his contributions to the team. If he really is juicing, then I will be happy to let him go in the offseason....


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 Post subject: Re: Serious question re: Byrd juicing
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:38 pm 
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Fair question.

I was unaware of the Byrd-juicing issue until a few days ago. So you are correct - I don't give him a pass, and apparently, neither does MLB. He served a 50-game suspension in 2012, and has answered questions about his use of banned substances and the fact that he suffers from gynecomastia, which is defined as the enlargement of breast tissues in males. However, he served his time and is subjected to increased testing pursuant to MLB rules due to being caught previously. Not a whole lot more you can ask of the guy.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ ... -1.5782361


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 Post subject: Re: Serious question re: Byrd juicing
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I caught something in the USA today about it. Byrd says he's being tested so as long as he's pissing and passing, well......


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 Post subject: Re: Serious question re: Byrd juicing
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:56 pm 
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Fair question.

which is defined as the enlargement of breast tissues in males.


Glenn Burke loves large man breasts!


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 Post subject: Re: Serious question re: Byrd juicing
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:39 am 
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I'll never know and don't need to know what these guys do in their private lives. There may be several of them using banned substances. If they don't get caught it doesn't concern me.

I care about their performance on the field. Giles was a juicer, or so I believe, but that didn't stop me from taking great delight in his performance.

When a guy gets caught, I would prefer that they admit their guilt, accept their punishment, and move on. Braun's case was so galling because he got off on a technicality, and because he was our arch-rival's best player.


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 Post subject: Re: Serious question re: Byrd juicing
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:24 am 
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Just to be clear, this isn't conjecture. Byrd was suspended for 50 games last year. Gynecomastia is caused by abnormal levels of testosterone - I'd bet he was on something that was undetectable and got caught using the drugs that are a must with any steroid cycle.

If most of the rage is due to how Braun went down clinging to his lies to the end, that I can buy. Although Byrd didn't exactly "come clean".

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 Post subject: Re: Serious question re: Byrd juicing
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I too am new to this debacle. If it was time served, and he's clean now I guess I'm ok with it. I don't like the roid culture in baseball though. And I specifically hate Braun because of his counter-accusations, not his initial attempt to cheat.

I don't expect cheaters to be forthcoming without pressure. I do, however, expect a cornered man to take his fall rather than trying to obliterate others.

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