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 Post subject: Hall of Fame
PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:58 pm 
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I was reading The Beaver County Times column by John Perrotto about his upcoming selections for the Hall of Fame...

http://www.timesonline.com/articles/200 ... 462694.txt

and it got me to thinking...Who would you vote for from this year's ballot?

Harold Baines
Jay Bell
Bert Blyleven
David Cone
Andre Dawson
Ron Gant
Mark Grace
Rickey Henderson
Tommy John
Don Mattingly
Mark McGwire
Jack Morris
Dale Murphy
Jesse Orosco
Dave Parker
Dan Plesac
Tim Raines
Jim Rice
Lee Smith
Alan Trammell
Greg Vaughn
Mo Vaughn
Matt Williams

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 Post subject: Re: Hall of Fame
PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:44 pm 
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Id say Rickey Henderson has to top that list.


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 Post subject: Re: Hall of Fame
PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:51 pm 
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Rickey Henderson, Bert Blyleven, Mark McGwire.

McGwire's steroid use kept him out on the first ballot. Not this one.


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 Post subject: Re: Hall of Fame
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Bucfan wrote:
Rickey Henderson, Bert Blyleven, Mark McGwire.

McGwire's steroid use kept him out on the first ballot. Not this one.

I'll take Bucfan's list and add Tim Raines to it.

Because of the love-fest for all things BoSox in the media these days, I'm betting that Jim Rice gets in this go-round, but I'm firmly in the camp that believes he doesn't deserve it.

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 Post subject: Re: Hall of Fame
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Lee Smith and Andre Dawson.

Nobody else even comes close IMHO.


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 Post subject: Re: Hall of Fame
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I'd say Ricky Henderson and that's it. The baseball HOF is way too easy to get into in my opinion.

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 Post subject: Re: Hall of Fame
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Blyleven, Henderson, and Raines are all easy picks for me. I could be persuaded for two or three others if had had more time to stufy up.

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 Post subject: Re: Hall of Fame
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Henderson, McGuire, and Dawson

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 Post subject: Re: Hall of Fame
PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:24 pm 
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nad69dan wrote:
I was reading The Beaver County Times column by John Perrotto about his upcoming selections for the Hall of Fame...

http://www.timesonline.com/articles/200 ... 462694.txt

and it got me to thinking...Who would you vote for from this year's ballot?

Harold Baines
Jay Bell
Bert Blyleven
David Cone
Andre Dawson
Ron Gant
Mark Grace
Rickey Henderson
Tommy John
Don Mattingly
Mark McGwire
Jack Morris
Dale Murphy
Jesse Orosco
Dave Parker
Dan Plesac
Tim Raines
Jim Rice
Lee Smith
Alan Trammell
Greg Vaughn
Mo Vaughn
Matt Williams


Henderson, Mattingly, Parker!

Tommy John is already in there by virtue of an operation.

The hell with the HOF! Let's start a team with these guys!!!!!!!!

I remember every single one of these guys contributing to the game of baseball in good fashion, even stuck on himself Ricky. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Hall of Fame
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Id like to know how a guy with 3000+ Hits, 2300 Runs Scored (Most all time), 1400 SBs (Most all time) and is generally regarded to be the greatest leadoff hitter ever (from where he hit 290 homers and drove in 1100)... doesnt even come close?

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 Post subject: Re: Hall of Fame
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Kingston wrote:
Id like to know how a guy with 3000+ Hits, 2300 Runs Scored (Most all time), 1400 SBs (Most all time) and is generally regarded to be the greatest leadoff hitter ever (from where he hit 290 homers and drove in 1100)... doesnt even come close?

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IF I were a HOF voter, character would play a major factor in my vote.


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 Post subject: Re: Hall of Fame
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Bad character should have no bearing on Hall of Fame voting in my opinion...Stats Do!!!

Anyway, my list is Henderson, Raines, McGwire, Blyleven, Lee Smith, Parker

On the fence list- Baines, Trammell, Morris, Tommy John, Dawson

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 Post subject: Re: Hall of Fame
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Jeremy wrote:
Kingston wrote:
Id like to know how a guy with 3000+ Hits, 2300 Runs Scored (Most all time), 1400 SBs (Most all time) and is generally regarded to be the greatest leadoff hitter ever (from where he hit 290 homers and drove in 1100)... doesnt even come close?

:shock:



IF I were a HOF voter, character would play a major factor in my vote.



Well then why don't we let you vote for candidates for "Hall of Really Nice Guys". :shock: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Hall of Fame
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...jokes like that,BBF, will get you in the Hall of LAME! :P . I think Blylevin is the only one who makes my list. Ricky will make it when he retires.


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 Post subject: Re: Hall of Fame
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Jeremy wrote:
Kingston wrote:
Id like to know how a guy with 3000+ Hits, 2300 Runs Scored (Most all time), 1400 SBs (Most all time) and is generally regarded to be the greatest leadoff hitter ever (from where he hit 290 homers and drove in 1100)... doesnt even come close?

:shock:



IF I were a HOF voter, character would play a major factor in my vote.


What a stupid comment
What bad character did Rickey Henderson ever exude? Sure he was a little too into himself, but how many athletes are? If you were the greatest leadoff hitter and basestealer of all time, I'm sure you would be a little less humble too.

Not like the guy ever had character issues concerning cocaine or steroid use.
Henderson's a no brainer, Rice will make it in this year and Lee Smith should already be in.

F McGwire.

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 Post subject: Re: Hall of Fame
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Rickey would vote for Rickey for the Hall of Fame this season, and so would I. I think that Blyleven would have been in the Hall ten years ago if he had played in New York, Los Angeles or Boston, but since he played in Pittsburgh, Minnesota and Cleveland for most of his career, I feel that his greatness has been overlooked. The only other person that I would vote for is Jack Morris. He had the most wins of the 1980s' and has respectable statistics in all areas aside from ERA. Plus, he was a classic big game pitcher.

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 Post subject: Re: Hall of Fame
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Rickey Henderson is an easy choice,

Blyleven and Raines are about as far as I go, but a case could be made for Dawson considering his outstanding arm and defense.


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 Post subject: Re: Hall of Fame
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bradf wrote:
...jokes like that,BBF, will get you in the Hall of LAME! :P .


Coming from you brad, uh...well,...I don't know what that means... :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Hall of Fame
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BBF wrote:
Jeremy wrote:
Kingston wrote:
Id like to know how a guy with 3000+ Hits, 2300 Runs Scored (Most all time), 1400 SBs (Most all time) and is generally regarded to be the greatest leadoff hitter ever (from where he hit 290 homers and drove in 1100)... doesnt even come close?

:shock:



IF I were a HOF voter, character would play a major factor in my vote.



Well then why don't we let you vote for candidates for "Hall of Really Nice Guys". :shock: :lol:



Not really nice guys....just guys who didn't embarrass the game every chance they got.


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 Post subject: Re: Hall of Fame
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I continue to hold the torch for Bert Blyleven. The man has been screwed out of the HOF time and time again for being an excellent pitcher on bad teams (save the 1979 Pirates).

I also would vote for Henderson, Raines, and McGwire. I too don't give a damn about character issues. Character does not win games.

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