Proud fans of a 128-year old tradition

It is currently Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:22 pm

All times are UTC - 4 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 125 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: July 12, 2013 pirates 54-36 vs mets 40-48
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:10 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:52 pm
Posts: 4553
Location: Pittsburgh
batterup wrote:
sisyphus wrote:


Nothing irks me more than people making crap up to support their arguments. That kind of stuff doesn't fly here. Too many people are willing to check the numbers when they don't sound right. Here's a little piece of advice: if you can't make your argument by using facts, maybe you shouldn't be making your argument at all.



That's what irks you? People talking opinions on a baseball board? Kind of sad.[/quote]
No, people lying to support their unsupportable opinions. Kind of sad.

"I think we could find somebody to replace Sanchez who is better." That is an opinion. I don't happen to agree with it, but it's an opinion.

"Gaby Sanchez is in a two and a half year slump." That is an assertion, and it isn't true.

See the difference?

Probably wasting my breath.

_________________
"Enjoy every sandwich." - Warren Zevon


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: July 12, 2013 pirates 54-36 vs mets 40-48
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:10 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:17 pm
Posts: 1825
Location: Tejas
Bah. That was a solid chance.

Still, I'll take my chances on a .307 hitter every day and twice on Sunday. That's how it breaks.

_________________
Moneyball Saves.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: July 12, 2013 pirates 54-36 vs mets 40-48
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:11 pm 
Online
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:11 pm
Posts: 4965
Location: 120 miles west of Iowa City
Most disappointing to me was that Sanchez was late on a 2-0 fastball. At 2-0, you look for one pitch - a fastball. You load up and you shouldn't be late on it. It was a really poor AB considering he had a hitter's count.

_________________
Reflexively, obsessively and tastelessly submitted,
No. 9
Obsessive proponent of situational bunting and 2 strike hitting approaches, reflexively pro-catchers calling good games and tasteless proponent of the value of a RBI.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: July 12, 2013 pirates 54-36 vs mets 40-48
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:13 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:21 am
Posts: 4863
No. 9 wrote:
Most disappointing to me was that Sanchez was late on a 2-0 fastball. At 2-0, you look for one pitch - a fastball. You load up and you shouldn't be late on it. It was a really poor AB considering he had a hitter's count.


And Tabata was also ahead 2-0 (and 3-0)...

Most frustrating indeed.

_________________
Rage, rage against the regression of the light.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: July 12, 2013 pirates 54-36 vs mets 40-48
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:13 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:52 pm
Posts: 4553
Location: Pittsburgh
No. 9 wrote:
Most disappointing to me was that Sanchez was late on a 2-0 fastball. At 2-0, you look for one pitch - a fastball. You load up and you shouldn't be late on it. It was a really poor AB considering he had a hitter's count.

Agreed, that was an awful swing to be taking at a 2-0 pitch, especially a fastball.

_________________
"Enjoy every sandwich." - Warren Zevon


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: July 12, 2013 pirates 54-36 vs mets 40-48
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:14 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:16 pm
Posts: 1685
Ike davis looks like his nose got run over by a steamroller.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: July 12, 2013 pirates 54-36 vs mets 40-48
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:19 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:58 am
Posts: 463
Location: Oregon
Someone please go yard and end this.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: July 12, 2013 pirates 54-36 vs mets 40-48
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:20 pm 
Online
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:11 pm
Posts: 4965
Location: 120 miles west of Iowa City
NSMaster56 wrote:
No. 9 wrote:
Most disappointing to me was that Sanchez was late on a 2-0 fastball. At 2-0, you look for one pitch - a fastball. You load up and you shouldn't be late on it. It was a really poor AB considering he had a hitter's count.


And Tabata was also ahead 2-0 (and 3-0)...

Most frustrating indeed.


Tabata had a good 3-1 swing. Just a bit over the top of the ball. Sanchez looked like he put a defensive swing on a 2-0 pitch. That's just not good plate preparation.

_________________
Reflexively, obsessively and tastelessly submitted,
No. 9
Obsessive proponent of situational bunting and 2 strike hitting approaches, reflexively pro-catchers calling good games and tasteless proponent of the value of a RBI.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: July 12, 2013 pirates 54-36 vs mets 40-48
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:21 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:12 pm
Posts: 1074
All I'm saying is I like the stats that have been around since babe Ruth was playing. Look in the paper tomorrow morning, they will have players batting averages over all the other triple digit numbers, same with homers, rbi and runs. The game has gotten too complicated with a stat for everything.
Avg, hr, RBI, r, bb, and k's are all I need. I'm just used to loving my baseball cards and memorizing stats like that, maybe I don't want to see it go for this new stuff. Gaby Sanchez is an all star with these new stats I guess but he plays like a journeyman.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: July 12, 2013 pirates 54-36 vs mets 40-48
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:25 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:12 pm
Posts: 1074
sisyphus wrote:

Probably wasting my breath.


Your right Sanchez has been tearing the cover off the ball this year


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: July 12, 2013 pirates 54-36 vs mets 40-48
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:25 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Wed May 07, 2008 5:37 pm
Posts: 558
I get they cut off the beer sales an hour plus ago but how do you leave a game like this early? It was sold out now look at all those empty seats.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: July 12, 2013 pirates 54-36 vs mets 40-48
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:27 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:16 pm
Posts: 1685
TheShark wrote:
Clevelandsux wrote:
I know what gabys role is. Doesn't mean I have to like him. He's been awful lately. We can't keep squandering scoring opportunities like this.


No, you don't have to like him, but making comments like he "has to go" would imply that you do not know his role.


He has to go.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: July 12, 2013 pirates 54-36 vs mets 40-48
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:28 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:00 am
Posts: 2782
batterup wrote:
Avg, hr, RBI, r, bb, and k's are all I need. I'm just used to loving my baseball cards and memorizing stats like that, maybe I don't want to see it go for this new stuff. Gaby Sanchez is an all star with these new stats I guess but he plays like a journeyman.


How on earth are you over-thinking something so simple and trying to make it an argument about advanced metrics being useless or too complicated/tedious? Here it is: Garrett Jones and Gaby Sanchez are both first basemen. Jones hits RHP very well but hits LHP like Clint Barmes. Gaby Sanchez does the opposite and hits LHP very well so the two of them platoon. Use whatever statistic you prefer to see to take a look at the platoon splits of the two players.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: July 12, 2013 pirates 54-36 vs mets 40-48
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:29 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:17 pm
Posts: 1825
Location: Tejas
Damn, don't think they have any lefties left in the pen.

_________________
Moneyball Saves.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: July 12, 2013 pirates 54-36 vs mets 40-48
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:29 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:16 pm
Posts: 1685
Speak of the devil, they walk Martin to get to who? You guessed it, gaby! Come on gaby, prove me wrong.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: July 12, 2013 pirates 54-36 vs mets 40-48
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:30 pm 
Offline
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:00 am
Posts: 2782
I don't blame them for the intentional BB on McCutchen. It annoyed me but the Marte one was whatever. After this one to Martin I am officially really annoyed with Terry Collins.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: July 12, 2013 pirates 54-36 vs mets 40-48
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:31 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:16 pm
Posts: 1685
Just take the walk, gaby.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: July 12, 2013 pirates 54-36 vs mets 40-48
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:32 pm 
Online
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:11 pm
Posts: 4965
Location: 120 miles west of Iowa City
If Mercer gets up with bases juiced, I'm calling the suicide squeeze.

_________________
Reflexively, obsessively and tastelessly submitted,
No. 9
Obsessive proponent of situational bunting and 2 strike hitting approaches, reflexively pro-catchers calling good games and tasteless proponent of the value of a RBI.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: July 12, 2013 pirates 54-36 vs mets 40-48
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:33 pm 
Online
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:11 pm
Posts: 4965
Location: 120 miles west of Iowa City
No. 9 wrote:
If Mercer gets up with bases juiced, I'm calling the suicide squeeze.


Never mind.

_________________
Reflexively, obsessively and tastelessly submitted,
No. 9
Obsessive proponent of situational bunting and 2 strike hitting approaches, reflexively pro-catchers calling good games and tasteless proponent of the value of a RBI.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: July 12, 2013 pirates 54-36 vs mets 40-48
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:33 pm 
Offline
 Profile

Joined: Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:21 am
Posts: 4863
Clevelandsux wrote:
Just take the walk, gaby.


If only...

_________________
Rage, rage against the regression of the light.


Top
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 125 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next

All times are UTC - 4 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot], MSNbot Media, No. 9 and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group  
Design By Poker Bandits