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 Post subject: Pirates trade for Russ Canzler
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:52 pm 
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Pirates have traded Tim Alderson to Baltimore for OF/1B Russ Canzler. 27 years old who has always hit well in the minors and posted a .799 OPS with AAA Norfolk this year. He has shown very good power in the high minors, with 51 HRs in three seasons at AAA (and 27 in two years at AA). Also has just under 100 ABs in the majors between Tampa and Cleveland.

Corresponding move: J-Mac moved to 60 day-DL and Canzler is assigned to AAA/added to 40-man.


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates trade for Russ Canzler
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Is this a bench acquisition, or are they looking for something more permanent?

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates trade for Russ Canzler
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ZelieMike wrote:
Is this a bench acquisition, or are they looking for something more permanent?


Probably joins an Indianapolis team full of decent minor league depth options who still have some upside (Pie, Sands) but appear to be AAAA-types given their age. I did notice that he gotten considerable time in at four different positions and Hurdle's staff clearly gives a lot of bonus points for versatility. And unless he bumps Hague off of 1B he might take over one of the AAA corner spots if Lambo does get a promotion this year.


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates trade for Russ Canzler
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Pirates have traded Tim Alderson to Baltimore for OF/1B Russ Canzler. 27 years old who has always hit well in the minors and posted a .799 OPS with AAA Norfolk this year. He has shown very good power in the high minors, with 51 HRs in three seasons at AAA (and 27 in two years at AA). Also has just under 100 ABs in the majors between Tampa and Cleveland.

Corresponding move: J-Mac moved to 60 day-DL and Canzler is assigned to AAA/added to 40-man.



Further evidence that Huntington was fleeced by Sabean in the Freddy Sanchez trade.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates trade for Russ Canzler
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Looks to have drastic lefty/righty splits (hits lefties well) based on what I can find. Actually, hitting lefties well is an understatement, he absolutely rakes against them. 1.346 OPS against them so far this year with a .531 OBP and .816 SLG.

Could be a guy who can give Pedro and Tabata some off days as he plays 1B/3B/OF. Could also possibly be the lefthander side of a platoon if/when Sanchez leaves.

Edit: Link to his stats

http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=444453

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates trade for Russ Canzler
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Maybe he's Lambo's (future) replacement...?

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates trade for Russ Canzler
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Looks like a mighty fine candidate to take Brandon Inge's roster spot. How are his "intangibles"?


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates trade for Russ Canzler
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Oh, and allow me to be the first (if only to annoy No. 9):

#FREERUSSCANZLER


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates trade for Russ Canzler
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My first thought was that he was brought in to back fill for when Lambo gets promoted. Lambo's OPS sits at .973. What are you waiting for Neil?

But after reading here that he can play third and rakes against lefties, maybe he can take Inge's spot. Lord knows someone has to.


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And quick FYI. Canzler really can crush lefties. In his career in the majors, Canzler has a .271/.304/.396 line in 96 at-bats. In the minors this year he has a .276/.369/.430 line in 323 at-bats in Triple-A. But here's Canzler against LHP over the last four years (over 580 at-bats):

2013: 1.346 OPS in 82 PA

2012: .860 OPS in 182 PA

2011: .921 OPS in 152 PA

2010: 1.013 OPS in 143 PA

That's interesting to me...


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates trade for Russ Canzler
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NSMaster56 wrote:
Maybe he's Lambo's (future) replacement...?


Probably Jerry Sands, if anybody.

Lambo's too young (24 vs. Canzler's 27) for him to be the replacement and Sands is the one who has huge lefty platoon splits like Canzler's.

Lambo was sitting around a .600 OPS in AAA over the past 2 weeks until his big game last night so I think they'll likely give him more time before making a decision. He's been boom or bust so far at that level. Had a huge start, went cold, had a big game last night. So we'll see where he goes from here.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates trade for Russ Canzler
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Lambo['s]... been boom or bust so far at that level. Had a huge start, went cold, had a big game last night.


Pedro Alvarez clone?

Why not?

Double the fun.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates trade for Russ Canzler
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Wow, those splits suggest he is going to hit lefties no matter where he plays - including the majors.

Seriously, he could lose 250 points off his 2013 AAA OPS and hit lefties at .314/.406/.681.

Yeah, that would work.


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates trade for Russ Canzler
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Bucfan wrote:
Wow, those splits suggest he is going to hit lefties no matter where he plays - including the majors.

Seriously, he could lose 250 points off his 2013 AAA OPS and hit lefties at .314/.406/.681.

Yeah, that would work.

True.

But why is he 27 with only 96 major league at bats to his credit?


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates trade for Russ Canzler
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Quote from Hurdle's press conference today per Bucs Dugout ...

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"Right handed hitting corner option. Guy that's had some success with the bat," Hurdle said of Canzler, "Going to try him out in right field and third base and see how versatile we can get him."


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates trade for Russ Canzler
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TheShark wrote:
Quote from Hurdle's press conference today per Bucs Dugout ...

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"Right handed hitting corner option. Guy that's had some success with the bat," Hurdle said of Canzler, "Going to try him out in right field and third base and see how versatile we can get him."



Translation: If he isn't a complete moron in the field, he gets Inge's spot after the All Star break.


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TheShark wrote:
Quote from Hurdle's press conference today per Bucs Dugout ...

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"Right handed hitting corner option. Guy that's had some success with the bat," Hurdle said of Canzler, "Going to try him out in right field and third base and see how versatile we can get him."


That's the equivalent of "Taps" for Inge.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates trade for Russ Canzler
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Or Harrison's since he's pretty much only 3B up here. But then yeah, Inge once Walker returns.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates trade for Russ Canzler
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val wrote:
Bucfan wrote:
Wow, those splits suggest he is going to hit lefties no matter where he plays - including the majors.

Seriously, he could lose 250 points off his 2013 AAA OPS and hit lefties at .314/.406/.681.

Yeah, that would work.

True.

But why is he 27 with only 96 major league at bats to his credit?

I'm guessing that his defense isn't all that impressive. Also, it's way tougher to find work on the short end of a platoon.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates trade for Russ Canzler
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val wrote:
But why is he 27 with only 96 major league at bats to his credit?


He was stuck in the Cubs organization for six years to start his career (they drafted him in the 30th round so obviously he wasn't though of as much of a prospect). He performed pretty well in the low minors but not great and the power was only average. Curiously, the Cubs finally released him following his best year in the minors to that point in which he posted a .938 OPS in AA with 21 HRs. He followed that by signing with Tampa and putting up an almost identical identical OPS in AAA and a .314 BA. Got a September call-up where he made his debut. He was traded to Cleveland and had a mildly disappointing season but still hit well and actually posted his career best HR total. He then went through a whirlwind of waiver claims last year where he bounced between Toronto, then back to Cleveland, then NYY, and finally Baltimore earlier this year where he was hitting okay in AAA, the 11 HRs puts him on pace for a decent season.

In summary you could pick a variety of reasons for his lack of ML time logged. Could be an AAAA player given that he broke out with his best seasons in the high minors when he was a little order. Given how often he was yanked around the diamond his defense was probably a factor as well. But overall, even though he was yanked around by all of those teams the past three years he still spent six years in the Chicago organization where he never got a chance so you never know.


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