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 Post subject: Re: Home Run Derby
PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:47 pm 
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I'm glad. Homerun derby ruins peoples real game power stroke. A year removed from last years derby, Cutch is on pace for 17 homers on the season and seems to try and pull when loading up on pitches.

In the week following last year's All Star Game McCutchen hit four homers. So is it some sort of delayed onset thing?

Call me extremely skeptical.

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 Post subject: Re: Home Run Derby
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 Post subject: Re: Home Run Derby
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:33 pm 
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Well . . . that's going to mess with (1) the ferocity of the boos that would have been heard on Friday night and (2) is going to mess somewhat with DK's Friday column taking fans to task for being upset about Pedro's inclusion in a skills competition.

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 Post subject: Re: Home Run Derby
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:38 pm 
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sisyphus wrote:
Mister Pittsburgh wrote:
I'm glad. Homerun derby ruins peoples real game power stroke. A year removed from last years derby, Cutch is on pace for 17 homers on the season and seems to try and pull when loading up on pitches.

In the week following last year's All Star Game McCutchen hit four homers. So is it some sort of delayed onset thing?

Call me extremely skeptical.


There's no evidence that it exists. If Pedro hits fewer HR in the 2nd half it won't be because of the Derby....it'll be because hitting 45 HR's in a single season is incredibly difficult these days.

Plus, if anybody has seen Pedro take BP they know he doesn't need to alter his swing a bit to put on a show.

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 Post subject: Re: Home Run Derby
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:39 pm 
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I wonder what brought his change of heart? Did Gonzalez choose not to participate or did us bucco fans just get to wright?


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 Post subject: Re: Home Run Derby
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:42 pm 
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I wonder what brought his change of heart? Did Gonzalez choose not to participate or did us bucco fans just get to wright?


Gonzalez isn't participating, he's hurt.

And it's a legitimate injury, my fantasy team can attest to that as he's been missing actual games. Sprained a finger ligament on a swing.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:53 pm 
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I think the home run derby would be important to a younger player like Pedro, than say someone who is a 10 time all star.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:59 pm 
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Clevelandsux wrote:
I think the home run derby would be important to a younger player like Pedro, than say someone who is a 10 time all star.


Probably, although this is only CarGo's 2nd All-Star selection.

I just think he legitimately doesn't want to re-aggravate anything since he injured himself swinging a bat. Shame he's the one the NL lost, he and Pedro together would've made for a formidable duo.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:07 pm 
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Twitter must be overloaded with 'Pedro will be the first HR Derby participant to strikeout'-like jokes.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:08 pm 
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Great news for Pedro! Now, I'll watch Home Run Derby and go Pedro!

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 Post subject: Re: Home Run Derby
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:09 pm 
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From ESPN Stats & Info:

Pedro has 3 home runs of 440+ feet this year. No other participant has more than 1.

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MLB hosts were wondering if David Wright was still going to be booed this weekend..... 8-) 8-)


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 Post subject: Re: Home Run Derby
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:04 pm 
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I just hope Pedro doesn't swing and miss a pitch. May have to chuckle if that happens.
Want him to do well and I think he will.


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 Post subject: Re: Home Run Derby
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:12 pm 
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sisyphus wrote:
Mister Pittsburgh wrote:
I'm glad. Homerun derby ruins peoples real game power stroke. A year removed from last years derby, Cutch is on pace for 17 homers on the season and seems to try and pull when loading up on pitches.

In the week following last year's All Star Game McCutchen hit four homers. So is it some sort of delayed onset thing?

Call me extremely skeptical.


And then he hit 9 after those 4 the rest of the season, not to mention his slugging % dropping by 150 points and his average in the second half being .250 +/-.


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 Post subject: Re: Home Run Derby
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:32 pm 
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Mister Pittsburgh wrote:
And then he hit 9 after those 4 the rest of the season, not to mention his slugging % dropping by 150 points and his average in the second half being .250 +/-.


You think those 13 in the second half was a disappointment? Did you really think the first half was sustainable and he'd hit close to 40 HRs? Fine if you did, I sure didn't, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if last year's 30+ HR season is an outlier for his career. He only hit over 20 once the three years prior and simply put just doesn't have the type of swing to consistently put up those kind of power numbers. And he has struggled in the second half through his career, such was how far his BA slipped two years ago. I think it's absurd to try to blame his participation in the HR derby on either of those things.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:46 pm 
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Yeah there hasn't been any concrete evidence that it leads to any sort of hindrance and the most glaring instances of guys tapering off in the 2nd half were guys who were screaming to regress anyway.

Most of it is simply tied to guys "finding their level" or "regressing to the mean", whichever you prefer.

Love Cutch. He's not a .370, 35 home run guy.

Also love Pedro. Not sure he's a 45 home run guy. Think he has a better chance of sustaining than Cutch did, but that's a lot of home runs in the post-steroid era. Tough to hold anyone to that standard, Bautista is the only one who did it since 2010.

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 Post subject: Re: Home Run Derby
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Mister Pittsburgh wrote:
sisyphus wrote:
Mister Pittsburgh wrote:
I'm glad. Homerun derby ruins peoples real game power stroke. A year removed from last years derby, Cutch is on pace for 17 homers on the season and seems to try and pull when loading up on pitches.

In the week following last year's All Star Game McCutchen hit four homers. So is it some sort of delayed onset thing?

Call me extremely skeptical.


And then he hit 9 after those 4 the rest of the season, not to mention his slugging % dropping by 150 points and his average in the second half being .250 +/-.

So it didn't start bothering him until a week after the ASG.

Right.

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 Post subject: Re: Home Run Derby
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:21 pm 
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I think Pedro could put on a Ryan Howard type performance in the Derby. The raw power is just incredible. All about making contact for him.

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.....and they still booed Wright. Pedro rubbed his original slight in their nose with his most recent dinger. :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Home Run Derby
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:39 pm 
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I hope he hits one 500 ft. I think he might.

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