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 Post subject: Re: Happy Birthday America Game Phillies @ Pirates
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:04 pm 
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JollyRoger wrote:
Can we stop pretending that these pitchers with high ERAs suck?


Yup.

The radio gang mentioned that 11 of Hamels' 17 starts this year have been QS.

He's given up <4 R in 11 of 17 as well.

The Phillies have 16 Runs in the eight games he has given up two or fewer runs. They're 2-6 (Hamels 2-4) in those same contests.

Lack of run support with lead to some pretty misleading W-L stats.

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 Post subject: Re: Happy Birthday America Game Phillies @ Pirates
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:06 pm 
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StarlingArcher wrote:
Pitcher win-loss record is irrelevant. Everything you need to know about a pitcher is in his peripheral stats.

It's like RBIs for hitters. Both are entirely based on the team behind you.


Don't forget saves!

Isn't that right, Rich Loiselle, Mike Williams, Mike Gonzalez, Octavio Dotel, Matt Capps, Joel Hanrahan...?

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 Post subject: Re: Happy Birthday America Game Phillies @ Pirates
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NSMaster56 wrote:
StarlingArcher wrote:
Pitcher win-loss record is irrelevant. Everything you need to know about a pitcher is in his peripheral stats.

It's like RBIs for hitters. Both are entirely based on the team behind you.


Don't forget saves!

Isn't that right, Rich Loiselle, Mike Williams, Mike Gonzalez, Octavio Dotel, Matt Capps, Joel Hanrahan...?

:D


Yup. As was retweeted by Schoenfield or someone last night....Melancon pitches a great inning, nothing. Grilli comes in with a 3 run lean, gives up a 2 run homer, gets a "save".

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 Post subject: Re: Happy Birthday America Game Phillies @ Pirates
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Money on Jones striking out or hitting into a DP.


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 Post subject: Re: Happy Birthday America Game Phillies @ Pirates
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Clearly going for the reverse jinx 8-)


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 Post subject: Re: Happy Birthday America Game Phillies @ Pirates
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lets go Cutch!!! keep it rollin.

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 Post subject: Re: Happy Birthday America Game Phillies @ Pirates
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Clevelandsux wrote:
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There have been several mental errors and poor approaches at the plate this series.


My issue has been all these stranded runners left on base.

Other than our three 2-out singles in the third, we've only had 2 other hits and no walks. We're certainly not stranding base runners this game. :(


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 Post subject: Re: Happy Birthday America Game Phillies @ Pirates
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:15 pm 
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Good or bad, I for one agree that it is good to face another pitcher.....looks like Mercer, Maete and Jones concur. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Happy Birthday America Game Phillies @ Pirates
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Well, needing 2 is better than needing 4.


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 Post subject: Re: Happy Birthday America Game Phillies @ Pirates
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this is why it was important for Mazzaro to stop the bleeding after giving up the first couple of runs, which he clearly didn't do.

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 Post subject: Re: Happy Birthday America Game Phillies @ Pirates
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Dang.

It would have been nice to get those two runs when the bases were loaded B8 in the first game of this series.

Oh, well.

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 Post subject: Re: Happy Birthday America Game Phillies @ Pirates
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Gosh, that is the definition of anti-climax.

Does Cutch get a RBI for "driving" in the run???


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 Post subject: Re: Happy Birthday America Game Phillies @ Pirates
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good thing the Phillies wont get an insurance run here.....oh.

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 Post subject: Re: Happy Birthday America Game Phillies @ Pirates
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Lead-off triple. Sigh.


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 Post subject: Re: Happy Birthday America Game Phillies @ Pirates
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:26 pm 
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well, maybe not.

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 Post subject: Re: Happy Birthday America Game Phillies @ Pirates
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:29 pm 
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Lets hope this is an omen for the 9th and game.


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 Post subject: Re: Happy Birthday America Game Phillies @ Pirates
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its almost like I expect for the Pirates to come back and win this game after everything that has happened this season.

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 Post subject: Re: Happy Birthday America Game Phillies @ Pirates
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Well, everyone loses series. Move on. Cubs next.


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 Post subject: Re: Happy Birthday America Game Phillies @ Pirates
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Dissapointing. Don't lose focus.


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 Post subject: Re: Happy Birthday America Game Phillies @ Pirates
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Watching game, and saw that umpire gagged strike 3 on Howard ... followed by then gagging on strike 4.

This is from Gameday:

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I think that if Cole has 2 outs and nobody on in the 6th, then he is left in to face Delmon "Why, yes, I'll have fourths and hey, how about I hit an umpire with the bat?" Young.


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