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 Post subject: Karstens out another 10-12 weeks
PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:08 pm 
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Gomez and Contreras starting rehab next week.

Feel bad for Karstens. IF Cole comes up....it could be permanent. Maybe. I just hope they don't jerk him around like Cleveland is going with Bauer.

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 Post subject: Re: Karstens out another 10-12 weeks
PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:29 pm 
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Unfortunate for Derp, who has been a quality pitcher for the Bucs.

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 Post subject: Re: Karstens out another 10-12 weeks
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Too bad. Would be nice if he got healthy if we are still in the race in August/September. Same with Morton and j Mac.


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 Post subject: Re: Karstens out another 10-12 weeks
PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:37 pm 
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Sounds like Karstens is most likely done this season.

In other news Hughes is on the 25 day dl. Hope stays there.


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 Post subject: Re: Karstens out another 10-12 weeks
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Sad to hear. Let's all hope for the best for the guy.

I wonder if the Pirates receive insurance money due to Karstens' injury. It would be nice if they could recoup his $2.5 million salary for use in other areas.


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 Post subject: Re: Karstens out another 10-12 weeks
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They could but you never get the whole amount....only a percentage..... 8-) 8-)


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 Post subject: Re: Karstens out another 10-12 weeks
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Az Bucco fan wrote:
They could but you never get the whole amount....only a percentage..... 8-) 8-)


No need to worry too much, Seven Springs had a pretty good ski season.

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 Post subject: Re: Karstens out another 10-12 weeks
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Az Bucco fan wrote:
They could but you never get the whole amount....only a percentage..... 8-) 8-)


Yeah and it's a shame the league capped the draft and international signing pools. That used to be the type of place you could really put an extra $1-2M to good use. Maybe pour some more of it into the Dominican academies or something.

Not sure it'd make a huge difference in free agency, it's just too skewed of a system with exorbitant salaries.

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 Post subject: Re: Karstens out another 10-12 weeks
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StarlingArcher wrote:
Az Bucco fan wrote:
They could but you never get the whole amount....only a percentage..... 8-) 8-)


Yeah and it's a shame the league capped the draft and international signing pools. That used to be the type of place you could really put an extra $1-2M to good use. Maybe pour some more of it into the Dominican academies or something.

Not sure it'd make a huge difference in free agency, it's just too skewed of a system with exorbitant salaries.


A million dollars could make a difference come the trade deadline or the waiver deadline towards a rental player...

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 Post subject: Re: Karstens out another 10-12 weeks
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I believe NH has said in the past that they do not insure one year contracts- it's the long term contracts they take insurance policies out on.

Don't have a link, just going on my oft-faulty memory.


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 Post subject: Re: Karstens out another 10-12 weeks
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StarlingArcher wrote:
Gomez and Contreras starting rehab next week.

Feel bad for Karstens. IF Cole comes up....it could be permanent. Maybe. I just hope they don't jerk him around like Cleveland is going with Bauer.

Karstens is out for the season. It's 10-12 weeks before he can start a throwing program.

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 Post subject: Re: Karstens out another 10-12 weeks
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sisyphus wrote:
Karstens is out for the season. It's 10-12 weeks before he can start a throwing program.


He knows that, he's the one who started the thread with that in the title. I assume regarding Cole he just means that he hopes they stick with him in the rotation and don't go to other options if he becomes a work in progress out of the gate. He is the only fifth option right now (assuming Wandy doesn't go to the DL like has been reported) but they have other options in due time with a healthy Gomez, Morton (who rehabbed in AAA tonight), McDonald, and some other internal options if they feel Cole needs more time in AAA.


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 Post subject: Re: Karstens out another 10-12 weeks
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nad69dan wrote:
A million dollars could make a difference come the trade deadline or the waiver deadline towards a rental player...


Very true, if that helps make taking on a bad contract easier to swallow, go for it. Or, if you kick in that money with a guy like McKenry, it maybe helps entice a team to make a deal. Someone like the Marlins who always seem all too willing to accept cash considerations.

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