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 Post subject: Tony Sanchez
PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 1:15 am 
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News of his demise as a prospect was greatly overstated, it would seem. Check him out - now posting a .936 OPS at Indianapolis, a tough hitter's park and a league where pitching is favored.

http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.js ... pid=506997


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 Post subject: Re: Tony Sanchez
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A late bloomer? Mckenrys defense is susceptible and as much as I like him I'd have to think Sanchez will be getting the call. For Sanchez to learn under Martin either this year or next would be key. Either way having depth at most positions up and down the farm system is good to have. Martin is in the middle of his prime, at least he plays like it. Maybe next year, if he continues this level of play the bucs would think about extending him.


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 Post subject: Re: Tony Sanchez
PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 9:36 am 
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buccosfan77 wrote:
A late bloomer? Mckenrys defense is susceptible and as much as I like him I'd have to think Sanchez will be getting the call. For Sanchez to learn under Martin either this year or next would be key. Either way having depth at most positions up and down the farm system is good to have. Martin is in the middle of his prime, at least he plays like it. Maybe next year, if he continues this level of play the bucs would think about extending him.


I'm pretty confident that Sanchez will be the subject of Martin's tutelage next year.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Sanchez
PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 10:02 am 
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It seems pretty clear that Sanchez will replace McKenry. It's just a quesion of will it happen in July or will it happen during the offseason.


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 Post subject: Re: Tony Sanchez
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Maybe McKenry can find a way to play at first or third. I definitely don't like him behind the plate, but he has very deceptive raw power at the plate.


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 Post subject: Re: Tony Sanchez
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Leway512 wrote:
Maybe McKenry can find a way to play at first or third. I definitely don't like him behind the plate, but he has very deceptive raw power at the plate.



I agree, maybe see if he can stick around somehow and function as an emergency catcher. I'd hate to lose his bat off the bench, although that is a rather small concern.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Sanchez
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Leway512 wrote:
Maybe McKenry can find a way to play at first or third. I definitely don't like him behind the plate, but he has very deceptive raw power at the plate.


I agree, maybe see if he can stick around somehow and function as an emergency catcher. I'd hate to lose his bat off the bench, although that is a rather small concern.


What to do with McKenry if Sanchez comes up next season...

Yeah. I'd keep him. He has a decent arm and he can move, so maybe the Bucs could try him at 3B? With his bat, he could be a potential platoon partner with Alvarez.


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 Post subject: Re: Tony Sanchez
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J_C_Steel wrote:
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Leway512 wrote:
Maybe McKenry can find a way to play at first or third. I definitely don't like him behind the plate, but he has very deceptive raw power at the plate.


I agree, maybe see if he can stick around somehow and function as an emergency catcher. I'd hate to lose his bat off the bench, although that is a rather small concern.


What to do with McKenry if Sanchez comes up next season...

Yeah. I'd keep him. He has a decent arm and he can move, so maybe the Bucs could try him at 3B? With his bat, he could be a potential platoon partner with Alvarez.



It would also allow Sanchez to get some ABs, as Clint wouldn't be afraid to burn his backup catcher.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Sanchez
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Hurdle had McKenry throwing baseballs from 2nd base to 1st base a few days ago to 'clear his head' for allowing the Brewers to pretend they were Willie Mays Hayes.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Sanchez
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McKenry is most valuable as a #2 catcher. That's what he is, and that's what he will almost certainly remain.

Since we won't be needing him soon, it makes sense to trade him to a team that does need him, in exchange for something of value from that team.


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 Post subject: Re: Tony Sanchez
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nad69dan wrote:
Hurdle had McKenry throwing baseballs from 2nd base to 1st base a few days ago to 'clear his head' for allowing the Brewers to pretend they were Willie Mays Hayes.



I saw that, and I think I read into it as much as you are. I don't think it was just a "clear your head" move.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Sanchez
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Ralphie wrote:
McKenry is most valuable as a #2 catcher. That's what he is, and that's what he will almost certainly remain.

Since we won't be needing him soon, it makes sense to trade him to a team that does need him, in exchange for something of value from that team.



I don't know...as a number 2 catcher, it almost eliminates him from being considered for pinch-hit duty. I'd think having him around, if he's able to play some occasional 2B or 3B, along with Sanchez would really open up the bench.


That being said, if another team makes a good offer, that also makes sense for the Bucs. I just think he could also add value outside of being a #2 catcher.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Sanchez
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Well he would basically have to take Inge's spot if you're going with 3 catchers. And while he might be able to hit better than Inge, I don't know if he can field well enough to take that spot.

Inge is old and slow and not especially athletic, but he does have some ability, both at the plate and in the field.


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 Post subject: Re: Tony Sanchez
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Ralphie wrote:
Well he would basically have to take Inge's spot if you're going with 3 catchers. And while he might be able to hit better than Inge, I don't know if he can field well enough to take that spot.

Inge is old and slow and not especially athletic, but he does have some ability, both at the plate and in the field.


I'm really not even sure that he's an appreciably better hitter than Inge. Has some pop, sure, but also sports a .230 average and isn't particularly adept at drawing walks....to say nothing of his 25+% K rate. Not the best profile for a pinch hitter, and with how teams have been victimizing him all year in the run game I don't think he has much defensively to offer behind the dish.

Really encouraging to see Sanchez turn things around. Might wait a bit longer just to make sure SSS bias is pretty well avoided, but he was Tweeting around the time of Sid's broken jaw that it took him until the end of last season to fully regain all of his strength back from his 2nd one. So, this could be totally legit and that would be a reasonable explanation for his hitting swoon after a big first year.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Sanchez
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SUPERCHARGED APE wrote:
nad69dan wrote:
Hurdle had McKenry throwing baseballs from 2nd base to 1st base a few days ago to 'clear his head' for allowing the Brewers to pretend they were Willie Mays Hayes.



I saw that, and I think I read into it as much as you are. I don't think it was just a "clear your head" move.


As Az, Bucfan and Sisyphus will attest, catchers don't throw like any other position player. They cannot afford the time to "wind up" or "reach back" to get a throw off to second. Instead, a good catcher has an incredibly short throwing motion and quick release - from about the catcher's ear.

A second baseman's throw, as is obvious, is much shorter than SS or 3B where you see guys really reach back to fire the ball. A throw from the OF also involves reaching back to generate arm speed. If you wanted to give a player some time to "clear his head" and work on form other than from behind the plate. This wouldn't be the first time this ploy has been tried.

I really don't think that he is being tested to become a back-up second baseman.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Sanchez
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I think McHenry is going to be the "Mike Diaz" of this crop of building the winning team Pirates. The popular guy who was here during the process but won't be here in the long run.

He will be here for awhile and be a fan favorite, but next year it will be Sanchez and Martin as it has to be, and McHenry will be traded, proabably for a bag of balls.

But maybe not, remember Mike Diaz brought us key bench/role player Gary Redus!


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 Post subject: Re: Tony Sanchez
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It would be great if TS turned into a productive MLer.

I would be so glad to have been wrong about him.

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 Post subject: Re: Tony Sanchez
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Update:

Sanchez now at .310/.425/.550, a great .975 OPS, with 12 2B's, 4 HR's, 18 RBI's, 14 R's in 100 at-bats.

He is hitting .424/.525/.818 with 2 HR's, 9 RBI's, 6 BB, 6 K his last 10 games.

Yes, a .525 OBP his last ten games and .425 for the season.


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Bucfan wrote:
Update:

Sanchez now at .310/.425/.550, a great .975 OPS, with 12 2B's, 4 HR's, 18 RBI's, 14 R's in 100 at-bats.

He is hitting .424/.525/.818 with 2 HR's, 9 RBI's, 6 BB, 6 K his last 10 games.

Yes, a .525 OBP his last ten games and .425 for the season.


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 Post subject: Re: Tony Sanchez
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J_C_Steel wrote:
Bucfan wrote:
Update:

Sanchez now at .310/.425/.550, a great .975 OPS, with 12 2B's, 4 HR's, 18 RBI's, 14 R's in 100 at-bats.

He is hitting .424/.525/.818 with 2 HR's, 9 RBI's, 6 BB, 6 K his last 10 games.

Yes, a .525 OBP his last ten games and .425 for the season.


YADIER MOLINA TIME!

(I love giving up on a guy and then getting super psyched about him again.)


Garrett Jones took a pretty long damn time to come around, but he is a pretty damn good baseball player. Guess he is the model of 'old prospects' finally getting it.


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