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 Post subject: A's Got Jobbed Like We Did
PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 2:47 pm 
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Similar situation last night in Cleveland to what we saw with Travis Snyder. Adam Rosales hit a homer that would have tied the game in the ninth inning, but the umps ruled it a double. Then they reviewed it and still ruled it a double even though it's clear from the replay that the ball was gone.

Sounds like the umps are doing their replays on crappy non-HD TV's or something like that. Which is ridiculous and needs to be rectified ASAP.


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Or the umpires are just incompetent. Nahhhhhhh

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This was worse than Travis' situation. If I recall correctly, Travis ultimately scored. Here, Rosales was stranded and "game over."

The fact that the Crew Chief refused to take questions on the record, or specifically explain their review procedure is just crazy. I'll bet if they even just grabbed the ball, they would have seen paint marks from the railing on the ball itself (ie, irrefutable evidence).

Just sucks for Oakland -- but every game has bad calls on the bases, in/out of strke zone, did batter swing etc. Just a simple fact that human error (even when looking at a video replay) is inexorably part of the game. Here, it just had magnified consequences (kind of like the Jerry Meals phantom safe call, or the Denkinger safe call in the '85 WS, or the Joyce call in Gallaragas' imperfect perfect game).

I just hope there is some accountability here. For instance, demote or fine Angel Hernandez. If I see him in postseason, something is seriously wrong here.


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The thing is, just like the Snyder ball, it was clear from the replay that the ball was gone. So why was it not clear to the umpires? Why are they not seeing the same replay?


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Ralphie wrote:
The thing is, just like the Snyder ball, it was clear from the replay that the ball was gone. So why was it not clear to the umpires?

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Yes even tribe fans here said the a's got jobbed.


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 Post subject: Re: A's Got Jobbed Like We Did
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Are MLB instant replays required to be viewed at full speed like they are in the NFL or can they slow them down? Also, what do they have for camera angles? In the video below it's difficult to tell at full speed (even at 1080p) whether or not the ball did actually hit the yellow from that camera angle.



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They have slow motion and multiple angles. The same feeds that we see; only they get it from both teams.


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Ralphie wrote:
They have slow motion and multiple angles. The same feeds that we see; only they get it from both teams.

Here is a significant reason for the blown call, then the blown-blown call call.

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Ralphie wrote:
They have slow motion and multiple angles. The same feeds that we see; only they get it from both teams.


In that case there is absolutely no excuse for missing that call.


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Last night the umps let a pitcher come in and warm up, then leave without facing a batter. Apparently the Houston manager also was not aware of the rule that a pitcher has to face one batter.

The rule is neither new nor complicated. And we thought our manager was bad.


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Ralphie wrote:
Last night the umps let a pitcher come in and warm up, then leave without facing a batter. Apparently the Houston manager also was not aware of the rule that a pitcher has to face one batter.

And the umpires were also apparently not aware, since they let it happen.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/1 ... 52869.html


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On the home run call, Peter Gammons is reporting today that he suspects guys like Angel, who have publicly stated their distaste for replay are simply ignoring it and maintaining their calls. For example, Angel was apparently furious with Jerry Meals(?) for admitting he blew the perfect game call.

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ZelieMike wrote:
For example, Angel was apparently furious with Jerry Meals(?) for admitting he blew the perfect game call.

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Jim Joyce blew that call.

And not coincidentally, Joyce (1) admitted he blew the call and (2) is generally acknowledged to be one of the better umpires in the game.


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MLB has a problem and in my opinion has had this problem for a long time.

It's called umpire arrogance.

Fans follow and support and pay to watch MLB games (or any league for that matter) NOT because of the umpires BUT because of the players playing the game of baseball...period end of sentence.

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 Post subject: Re: A's Got Jobbed Like We Did
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bassoondirector wrote:
MLB has a problem and in my opinion has had this problem for a long time.

It's called umpire arrogance.


While that's an acceptable answer 1b, correct numero uno answer is 'Bud Selig'. :D

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The problem is easy to solve...have an instant replay command center where a former ump (Steve Palermo comes to mind) looks at the replay and makes the decision. If the current umps don't like it, they get fired...


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