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 Post subject: Black and Gold Game
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:43 pm 
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Did anyone attend? If so, what are your observations?


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 Post subject: Re: Black and Gold Game
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:51 pm 
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Cole pitched two shutout innings giving up 1 hit, no BBs, 1 K.

Taillon pitched two shutout innings, 2 hits, no BBs, 3 Ks.

Marte hit a homer.

DeJesus Jr. hit a triple (assisted by an unsuccessful diving effort by Jerry Sands)

Clint Robinson struck out three times.


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 Post subject: Re: Black and Gold Game
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:23 pm 
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Please let Marte be for real. PLEASE!!

Imagine if he delivers, Pedro had a good year and Walker has a good year.

Cutch will be a monster with that kind of production around him.


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 Post subject: Re: Black and Gold Game
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:34 pm 
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Marte is for real. Pedro and Walker will have good years. Barmes will be better. Between Tabata, Snider, and Sanchez, at least a couple will be better than last year. Martin will be good too.

Cole has not allowed a run all spring. If he doesn't make the team I'm done.


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 Post subject: Re: Black and Gold Game
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:35 pm 
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Ralphie wrote:
Cole has not allowed a run all spring. If he doesn't make the team I'm done.

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 Post subject: Re: Black and Gold Game
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:40 pm 
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Hopefully Barmes plays like he did in the second half of last season, all season. A .670 OPS is more than passable at short if it comes with that glove.

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 Post subject: Re: Black and Gold Game
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Marte hit a 2 run homer OVER the outfield boardwalk.

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 Post subject: Re: Black and Gold Game
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:22 am 
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Ralphie wrote:
Marte is for real. Pedro and Walker will have good years. Barmes will be better. Between Tabata, Snider, and Sanchez, at least a couple will be better than last year. Martin will be good too.

Cole has not allowed a run all spring. If he doesn't make the team I'm done.


Personally, I don't think there's any way we see him before June.

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 Post subject: Re: Black and Gold Game
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:20 am 
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Rochester wrote:
Ralphie wrote:
Marte is for real. Pedro and Walker will have good years. Barmes will be better. Between Tabata, Snider, and Sanchez, at least a couple will be better than last year. Martin will be good too.

Cole has not allowed a run all spring. If he doesn't make the team I'm done.


Personally, I don't think there's any way we see him before June.


Which makes sense. He's a potential ace. Get that extra year of control. The Bucs brought in enough starting pitching options to hold the fort until then.


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 Post subject: Re: Black and Gold Game
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:33 am 
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J_C_Steel wrote:
Rochester wrote:
Ralphie wrote:
Marte is for real. Pedro and Walker will have good years. Barmes will be better. Between Tabata, Snider, and Sanchez, at least a couple will be better than last year. Martin will be good too.

Cole has not allowed a run all spring. If he doesn't make the team I'm done.


Personally, I don't think there's any way we see him before June.


Which makes sense. He's a potential ace. Get that extra year of control. The Bucs brought in enough starting pitching options to hold the fort until then.


Well you get the extra year of control if you call him up in the 3rd week of April when you 1st need a 5th SP. The whole June thing only effects his arbitration clock.

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 Post subject: Re: Black and Gold Game
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Barrys Dopers wrote:
Well you get the extra year of control if you call him up in the 3rd week of April when you 1st need a 5th SP. The whole June thing only effects his arbitration clock.


And that has a big impact on cost. I have no problem with waiting until June... unless, of course, the Pirates suffer a slew of pitching injuries.


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 Post subject: Re: Black and Gold Game
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J_C_Steel wrote:
Barrys Dopers wrote:
Well you get the extra year of control if you call him up in the 3rd week of April when you 1st need a 5th SP. The whole June thing only effects his arbitration clock.


And that has a big impact on cost. I have no problem with waiting until June... unless, of course, the Pirates suffer a slew of pitching injuries.


Yeah but a cost of an extra $5 million in 6 years time is minimal if it means more wins and thus attendance now. I agree that he could use some AAA time, but if he dominates in April, I have no issue with bringing him up in May. Also, since this is a pitcher, there is some benefit to getting MLB innings while he is healthy as opposed to banking on 7 years like a position player.

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 Post subject: Re: Black and Gold Game
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:25 pm 
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My comment was sarcastic. I have become very patient as I've grown older and am perfectly willing to let the Pirates decide when the best time to bring Cole up would be.

But it is that much of a stretch to see him being part of a solid rotation as we contend in August and September of this year? I don't think so. But of course it could break completely the other way too. This is the Pirates after all.


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