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 Post subject: Re: Liriano - Why Bucfan likes the deal
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:17 pm 
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PirateParrot wrote:
Not being overly pessimistic. It's realistic to expect Burnett to decline at least a bit. Not saying he won't have a solid season, just not as good as last.

I have a legitimate basis for disagreeing - I don't expect Burnett to foul another ball off his face.

That cost him at least 3 starts. 3 more starts add a lot of potential value.


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 Post subject: Re: Liriano - Why Bucfan likes the deal
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:43 pm 
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Bucfan wrote:
PirateParrot wrote:
Not being overly pessimistic. It's realistic to expect Burnett to decline at least a bit. Not saying he won't have a solid season, just not as good as last.

I have a legitimate basis for disagreeing - I don't expect Burnett to foul another ball off his face.

That cost him at least 3 starts. 3 more starts add a lot of potential value.


As might his old teammate Martin.

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As for the Bucs starting rotation, even with the ?'s surrounding JMac and Liriano, is there any doubt that it's better than 2011's opening???:

2011:
Bedard-Karstens-JMac-Correia
2012:
A.J.-Wandy-JMac/Liriano

Add in Locke and KMac (and possibly FA or trade acquisition X, possibly even the return of Karstens himself) and a late-season call-up for Cole and that's a solid bunch.

It's not the Phillies, Dodgers or Rangers in terms of WOW, but it's an upgrade from 2011's surprisingly competitive group.

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 Post subject: Re: Liriano - Why Bucfan likes the deal
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:43 pm 
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Looks like its only $12.5 million for 2 years, not $14 million.

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 Post subject: Re: Liriano - Why Bucfan likes the deal
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Maybe I'm a low baller, but a better group than I was expecting in April. <shrug>

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 Post subject: Re: Liriano - Why Bucfan likes the deal
PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:43 pm 
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NSMaster56 wrote:
Bucfan wrote:
PirateParrot wrote:
Not being overly pessimistic. It's realistic to expect Burnett to decline at least a bit. Not saying he won't have a solid season, just not as good as last.

I have a legitimate basis for disagreeing - I don't expect Burnett to foul another ball off his face.

That cost him at least 3 starts. 3 more starts add a lot of potential value.


As might his old teammate Martin.

---

As for the Bucs starting rotation, even with the ?'s surrounding JMac and Liriano, is there any doubt that it's better than 2011's opening???:

2011:
Bedard-Karstens-JMac-Correia
2012:
A.J.-Wandy-JMac/Liriano

Add in Locke and KMac (and possibly FA or trade acquisition X, possibly even the return of Karstens himself) and a late-season call-up for Cole and that's a solid bunch.

It's not the Phillies, Dodgers or Rangers in terms of WOW, but it's an upgrade from 2011's surprisingly competitive group.


I agree with this.


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