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 Post subject: Re: Pirates To Sign Francisco Liriano
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:53 pm 
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A decent enough addition at a decent enough price.

Due to Liriano's age, pure talents and one-time ceiling, there are enough potential for payoffs here (just for past FA SP comp: more first month Bedard than last month Bedard).

Of course, to echo the sentiments, adding Porcello would still be nice.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates To Sign Francisco Liriano
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NSMaster56 wrote:
Of course, to echo the sentiments, adding Porcello would still be nice.


Is there a realistic chance that could happen? If so, GREAT.


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates To Sign Francisco Liriano
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Charleston_Charlies wrote:
Is there a realistic chance that could happen?

I don't think so, now that Hanrahan was dealt to the Red Sox. Hanrahan would have been a key player in any deal for Porcello, since the Tigers are looking for established, back-end bullpen help.


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates To Sign Francisco Liriano
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I like the acquisition, but I wish the Pirates had signed him to a one-year deal. If he stinks in 2013, that's a hefty price to pay for 2014.


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates To Sign Francisco Liriano
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Just thought I'd bump this as it's still not official. The Buccos haven't been able to get him in for a physical yet.

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Anyone know if he's signed the contract? Anyone know anything about what's going on with him?


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Anyone know if he's signed the contract? Anyone know anything about what's going on with him?


Sounds like they're waiting on a physical. It's curious that he won't show up and do one. I don't want to read too much into it, but it's been a while.

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Rochester wrote:
NewMexicoLobo wrote:
Anyone know if he's signed the contract? Anyone know anything about what's going on with him?


Sounds like they're waiting on a physical. It's curious that he won't show up and do one. I don't want to read too much into it, but it's been a while.


Biertempfel says there is no problem.

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Rochester wrote:
NewMexicoLobo wrote:
Anyone know if he's signed the contract? Anyone know anything about what's going on with him?


Sounds like they're waiting on a physical. It's curious that he won't show up and do one. I don't want to read too much into it, but it's been a while.


Biertempfel says there is no problem.


Good.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates To Sign Francisco Liriano
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LHP Francisco Liriano injured right arm in Dec. #Pirates continue to talk to agent, but no deal imminent

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates To Sign Francisco Liriano
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Reading that it's his non-throwing arm. Weird.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates To Sign Francisco Liriano
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Barrys Dopers wrote:
Nothing like being lied to-

Rob Biertempfel @BiertempfelTrib

LHP Francisco Liriano injured right arm in Dec. #Pirates continue to talk to agent, but no deal imminent

I trust Biertempfel less than I would trust Richard Nixon.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates To Sign Francisco Liriano
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This could open up the opportunity to sign either Lohse or Marcum.

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This could open up the opportunity to sign either Lohse or Marcum.

Does either one cost a draft pick?

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Willton wrote:
This could open up the opportunity to sign either Lohse or Marcum.

Does either one cost a draft pick?

I think Lohse does.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates To Sign Francisco Liriano
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Willton wrote:
This could open up the opportunity to sign either Lohse or Marcum.


No thanks to Lohse, not worth losing the draft pick. Marcum is someone I always liked. A solid innings eater.


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates To Sign Francisco Liriano
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It's not going to break my heart if we don't sign Liriano. I was skeptical about his chances.


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 Post subject: Re: Pirates To Sign Francisco Liriano
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Willton wrote:
This could open up the opportunity to sign either Lohse or Marcum.


Or Jeff Karstens.

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nad69dan wrote:
Willton wrote:
This could open up the opportunity to sign either Lohse or Marcum.


Or Jeff Karstens.


Karstens still available? Shocking. Utterly shocking. Perhaps NH and Gayo are spreading lies about his age or health and scaring other teams away. Or . . . perhaps . . . he just isn't a much sought out commodity.

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 Post subject: Re: Pirates To Sign Francisco Liriano
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Karstens still available? Shocking. Utterly shocking. Perhaps NH and Gayo are spreading lies about his age or health and scaring other teams away. Or . . . perhaps . . . he just isn't a much sought out commodity.


Alternatively, Karstens' agent knows that he'll be more valuable in February or early March when teams have injuries or become desperate for starting pitching. But hey, you can take the "reflexively pro-Huntington" position if you like...


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